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wlynn5
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(7/20/02 12:30:48 pm)
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I can get a new Dillon 650 for about $600 set up the way I like. A complete change over to a new cal. will cost about $200.
I can get a Lee load Master for around $200.
This means I can get 3 Loadmasters in different cal. for the same cost and add a new complete Loadmaster for each new caliber for the same cost.
I know next to nothing about Lee but have owned a Dillon 550 before.
What would you do and why would you do it?
shooter22
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(7/20/02 3:23:27 pm)
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Buy a Hornady Auto Progressive Lock N Load! Caliber changes are not near as expensive, and about a hundred times faster. If you are truely interested, do a little research on the lock n load. Then if you have any questions let me know. I have two of them and woulkd not own another brand.
Oh, By the way, welcome to The Firearms Forum. We are pleased to have you here.
Edited by: shooter22 at: 7/20/02 4:30:06 pm
jeeper1
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(7/20/02 3:30:42 pm)
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I have Lee turret presses because they were cheap when I bought them and because they could be changed to left-handed operation easily. But my next press is going to be a Dillon 650.
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shooter45 us
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(7/20/02 6:14:20 pm)
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Dillon all the way. I just sold my Square Deal B and bought an RL 550. Price $275.00. NIB
I could have bought an RL 650 for $399.00. NIB
Still a few left. Want one ?????
Scooter
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(7/21/02 12:30:53 pm)
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I just recently purchased a complete Lee set up. Turret press, scale, and all the other accessories including all the dies required to reload .45 and 9mm, all the primers, bullets and powder for just under $200. I've been exteremy happy with my choice.
It seems that Lee has a bad rap for some reason. Probably because of the percieved value of the low priced equipment. I've reloaded approximately 2,000 rounds in the last few months, and haven't had a failure, yet. I researched the heck out of Dillon, RCBS, Hornady, and the other maj0or brands before settling on the Lee equipment. Since I was interested in "trying it out" first, before investing major $$$ I went with the Lee, and have been VERY happy with my choice.
Would I buy Lee again? You bet.
Don't discount their service, either.
Scooter
wlynn5
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(7/22/02 10:43:54 am)
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Shooter45 us, yes I want a RL 650 at that price. More info please.
shooter45 us
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(7/24/02 6:15:40 pm)
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OK, send me an email.
[email protected]
Edited by: shooter45 us at: 7/25/02 5:22:59 am
hotload
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(7/24/02 9:35:14 pm)
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I find it easier to reach Shooter at ,
[email protected]
The @ works alot better than a 2
Gotcha shooter
shooter45 us
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(7/25/02 4:24:55 am)
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Thanks for the heads up Hotload. I must have been having a blond moment.
tuckerd1
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(7/25/02 12:05:42 pm)
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Just the CRS kicking in Sam!
"They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety." (...Benjamin Franklin, 1759)
rayra
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(7/25/02 2:51:25 pm)
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wlynn5, wow those Dillon prices are outta whack.
that $200 / caliber must mean you are pricing / considering having a whole pre-set tool head, dies installed, it's own powder measure included ???
I load about 10 different rifle and pistol calibers on my 550B, but only have 4 tool heads and one powder measure.
The press already comes with both large and small primer feed tubes, and the corresponding primer feed bar, and the powder measure already comes with both rifle and pistol -sized transfer bars...
I primarily load .30-06 & .45acp, and keep those tool heads 'set'. The rest I install as needed.
It only takes ~10mins to complete an entire component transfer setup, even in case of going from .30-06 to 9mm (where you'd have to change tool heads, powder transfer, primer feed, baseplate, etc.)
The Caliber Conversion Kits (baseplate and brass 'buttons') are ~$32, but work with more than 1 caliber in some cases (30-06 & .45acp the same, .223 & 9mm same too).
If you do your reloading in large batches, and can handle the minor (and mostly necessary) re-setting of components, changing calibers can be as cheap as just another set of dies and a conversion kit (if it's needed).
$50-80, vs your $200 figure.
Can you spend $200+ on optional extras? Absolutely. But you don't have to.
Ammo Guy Paul
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(8/6/02 10:58:44 am)
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I've commercially loaded using a Lee 1000 and Lee Loadmaster. I cut my teeth on a Dillion 550. To much work for me to change calibers and powder. For absolute simplicity I like the Lee 1000. Both Lee and Dillion have there strong and weak points. My PERSONAL decision is to buy Lee. Your results may vary. Be happy, reload.
Paul, The Ammo Guy
"Aim small, miss small."
warpig883
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(8/6/02 11:32:35 am)
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Welcome to TFF Ammo Guy Paul
Moskovskyya
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(8/6/02 2:44:39 pm)
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(30-06 & .45acp the same, .223 & 9mm same too).
Ah rayra, 30-06 and .45 acp is correct, but if you're talking about 9mm Luger or 9x18 the correct shellplate is a #5 with #3 locator buttons, the .223 /5.56 uses #3 shell plate and #3 buttons. The .223 setup is exactly matched for .380, and I think 9x25 Dillon. It's close and will probably work, but incorrect nevertheless!
Remember precision!
WyomingSwede
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(8/6/02 7:23:19 pm)
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I still think Lee gives more bang for the buck. Gotta love those Dillon catalogs though. swede
Wyoming Swede
AntiqueDr
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(8/7/02 9:20:36 am)
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Just set up a new Loadmaster for .30-06. We'll see how it runs...
It was a bit disconcerting to read the warning in the Lee manual about Federal primers, when I've got about 50,000 of the things.
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jeeper1
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(8/7/02 10:50:06 pm)
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What warning about federal primers? What does it say? Thats all I use I have more than 12,000 of them.
The Curio and Relic Firearms Forum
To err is human. But to really screw things up you just about have to have a computer.
AntiqueDr
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(8/8/02 6:35:31 am)
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Lee manual says to only use Federal primers if you have the (optional) explosion guard. CCI and Winchester primers are said to be OK.
Right now I am wrasslin' with the priming mechanism, and trying to figure out why the stupid powder measure is leaking BL-(C)2 everywhere.
We Buy Guns! 1 - 100, Antique or Modern!
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(7/20/02 12:30:48 pm)
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I can get a new Dillon 650 for about $600 set up the way I like. A complete change over to a new cal. will cost about $200.
I can get a Lee load Master for around $200.
This means I can get 3 Loadmasters in different cal. for the same cost and add a new complete Loadmaster for each new caliber for the same cost.
I know next to nothing about Lee but have owned a Dillon 550 before.
What would you do and why would you do it?
shooter22
*TFF Staff*
Posts: 1230
(7/20/02 3:23:27 pm)
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Buy a Hornady Auto Progressive Lock N Load! Caliber changes are not near as expensive, and about a hundred times faster. If you are truely interested, do a little research on the lock n load. Then if you have any questions let me know. I have two of them and woulkd not own another brand.
Oh, By the way, welcome to The Firearms Forum. We are pleased to have you here.
Edited by: shooter22 at: 7/20/02 4:30:06 pm
jeeper1
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(7/20/02 3:30:42 pm)
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I have Lee turret presses because they were cheap when I bought them and because they could be changed to left-handed operation easily. But my next press is going to be a Dillon 650.
The Curio and Relic Firearms Forum
To err is human. But to really screw things up you just about have to have a computer.
shooter45 us
*TFF Chief Of Staff*
Posts: 1636
(7/20/02 6:14:20 pm)
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Dillon all the way. I just sold my Square Deal B and bought an RL 550. Price $275.00. NIB
I could have bought an RL 650 for $399.00. NIB
Still a few left. Want one ?????
Scooter
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Posts: 18
(7/21/02 12:30:53 pm)
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I just recently purchased a complete Lee set up. Turret press, scale, and all the other accessories including all the dies required to reload .45 and 9mm, all the primers, bullets and powder for just under $200. I've been exteremy happy with my choice.
It seems that Lee has a bad rap for some reason. Probably because of the percieved value of the low priced equipment. I've reloaded approximately 2,000 rounds in the last few months, and haven't had a failure, yet. I researched the heck out of Dillon, RCBS, Hornady, and the other maj0or brands before settling on the Lee equipment. Since I was interested in "trying it out" first, before investing major $$$ I went with the Lee, and have been VERY happy with my choice.
Would I buy Lee again? You bet.
Don't discount their service, either.
Scooter
wlynn5
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(7/22/02 10:43:54 am)
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Shooter45 us, yes I want a RL 650 at that price. More info please.
shooter45 us
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Posts: 1648
(7/24/02 6:15:40 pm)
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OK, send me an email.
[email protected]
Edited by: shooter45 us at: 7/25/02 5:22:59 am
hotload
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Posts: 18
(7/24/02 9:35:14 pm)
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I find it easier to reach Shooter at ,
[email protected]
The @ works alot better than a 2
Gotcha shooter
shooter45 us
*TFF Chief Of Staff*
Posts: 1650
(7/25/02 4:24:55 am)
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Thanks for the heads up Hotload. I must have been having a blond moment.
tuckerd1
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Posts: 1233
(7/25/02 12:05:42 pm)
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Just the CRS kicking in Sam!
"They that can give up essential Liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither Liberty nor safety." (...Benjamin Franklin, 1759)
rayra
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Posts: 347
(7/25/02 2:51:25 pm)
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wlynn5, wow those Dillon prices are outta whack.
that $200 / caliber must mean you are pricing / considering having a whole pre-set tool head, dies installed, it's own powder measure included ???
I load about 10 different rifle and pistol calibers on my 550B, but only have 4 tool heads and one powder measure.
The press already comes with both large and small primer feed tubes, and the corresponding primer feed bar, and the powder measure already comes with both rifle and pistol -sized transfer bars...
I primarily load .30-06 & .45acp, and keep those tool heads 'set'. The rest I install as needed.
It only takes ~10mins to complete an entire component transfer setup, even in case of going from .30-06 to 9mm (where you'd have to change tool heads, powder transfer, primer feed, baseplate, etc.)
The Caliber Conversion Kits (baseplate and brass 'buttons') are ~$32, but work with more than 1 caliber in some cases (30-06 & .45acp the same, .223 & 9mm same too).
If you do your reloading in large batches, and can handle the minor (and mostly necessary) re-setting of components, changing calibers can be as cheap as just another set of dies and a conversion kit (if it's needed).
$50-80, vs your $200 figure.
Can you spend $200+ on optional extras? Absolutely. But you don't have to.
Ammo Guy Paul
Member
Posts: 1
(8/6/02 10:58:44 am)
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I've commercially loaded using a Lee 1000 and Lee Loadmaster. I cut my teeth on a Dillion 550. To much work for me to change calibers and powder. For absolute simplicity I like the Lee 1000. Both Lee and Dillion have there strong and weak points. My PERSONAL decision is to buy Lee. Your results may vary. Be happy, reload.
Paul, The Ammo Guy
"Aim small, miss small."
warpig883
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Posts: 4267
(8/6/02 11:32:35 am)
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Welcome to TFF Ammo Guy Paul
Moskovskyya
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(8/6/02 2:44:39 pm)
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(30-06 & .45acp the same, .223 & 9mm same too).
Ah rayra, 30-06 and .45 acp is correct, but if you're talking about 9mm Luger or 9x18 the correct shellplate is a #5 with #3 locator buttons, the .223 /5.56 uses #3 shell plate and #3 buttons. The .223 setup is exactly matched for .380, and I think 9x25 Dillon. It's close and will probably work, but incorrect nevertheless!
Remember precision!
WyomingSwede
*TFF Senior Staff*
Posts: 512
(8/6/02 7:23:19 pm)
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I still think Lee gives more bang for the buck. Gotta love those Dillon catalogs though. swede
Wyoming Swede
AntiqueDr
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Posts: 2947
(8/7/02 9:20:36 am)
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Just set up a new Loadmaster for .30-06. We'll see how it runs...
It was a bit disconcerting to read the warning in the Lee manual about Federal primers, when I've got about 50,000 of the things.
We Buy Guns! 1 - 100, Antique or Modern!
www.apaxenterprises.com
Master Dealer for Kimber, Wilson Combat and Dan Wesson
jeeper1
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Posts: 328
(8/7/02 10:50:06 pm)
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What warning about federal primers? What does it say? Thats all I use I have more than 12,000 of them.
The Curio and Relic Firearms Forum
To err is human. But to really screw things up you just about have to have a computer.
AntiqueDr
*TFF Senior Staff*
Posts: 2953
(8/8/02 6:35:31 am)
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Lee manual says to only use Federal primers if you have the (optional) explosion guard. CCI and Winchester primers are said to be OK.
Right now I am wrasslin' with the priming mechanism, and trying to figure out why the stupid powder measure is leaking BL-(C)2 everywhere.
We Buy Guns! 1 - 100, Antique or Modern!
www.apaxenterprises.com
Master Dealer for Kimber, Wilson Combat and Dan Wesson