Do you +1 your auto?

Discussion in 'Centerfire Pistols & Revolvers' started by rglbegl, May 16, 2018.

Do you +1

Poll closed May 18, 2018.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. ral357

    ral357 Well-Known Member

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    1911???
     
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  2. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

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    I've seen one go full auto also. But it was tinkered with, and that caused the problem, not the gun it's self. All my semi-auto guns have a recoil spring, and because of that the slide has the same force when closing, either on a live round, a dummy round, or an empty chamber. Does it slow down any when stripping a round form the mag? I doubt it!
     
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  3. Robert Cowles

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    I have seen the "slam fire' problem with military 1911's (lots of use)...usually caused by weak/broken firing pin spring...allows pin to slam into primer.
     
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    carver Moderator Supporting Member

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    They fixed that problem with the 80 series. I carry one that is about 30 years old, and have never had a slam fire. I know that it could happen, so I adhere to Rule #2 of safe gun handling.
     
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  5. Robert Cowles

    Robert Cowles Member

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    Sorry if this is a duplicate...got knocked off mid post. I can see where inadvertent full auto would get you a lot of attention at the range...I have seen the "slam fire" problem and full auto issue in military 45's (lots of use). Usually caused by worn/weak firing pin spring allowing pin to slam into primer when slide is released. If it went full auto look for wear on disconnector. Both are easy fixes on the gun...restoring the operator's confidence in the weapon takes a little longer.
     
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  6. LIKTOSHOOT

    LIKTOSHOOT Advanced Senior Member Supporting Member

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    The pistol was not old and not modified, I take care of my stuff. It probably had 500 rounds through it(with no issues prior) at the time in malfunctioned and as everyone here it was pointed down range. But when it happens the full experience is something one should never experience. It`s unexpected and places you in full red zone to control it. Scary does not even explain what your mind is going through at that very moment, when it should not go off.........but 10 rounds later you are sucking wind and and the heart rate is over the top.
    Pistol was 1911 factory custom Colt Commander Steel frame.
    I am also a firm believer to never drop the slide on a hand loaded single round without the magazine inserted. While many disagree-it`s my way.
     
  7. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

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    A heavy recoiling pistol like the .45 would be double scary! The one I saw was a .25. I drop one live round in the chamber, no mag, and drop the slide. If my gun were to go off doing this, it can only fire the round in the chamber.
     
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  8. jedwil

    jedwil Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Of course, I have a round in the chamber. I do load all my magazines to one round shy of max.
     
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  9. jim brady

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    As my carry pistol is a .380 Walther PPK (with a tiny 6 shot mag) I always load one in the chamber, decock the hammer and load a full mag for 7 shot total.

    I know '.380 ACP is marginal' (and I have lots of full power pistols I COULD carry instead) - the Walther is just the gun I carry because for me it carries better than the others. If I could carry them as easily as the Walther I'd pick my 1911 or my .45 Colt Calvary Model over the PPK.
     
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  10. One Shot

    One Shot Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    My LC9s is advertised as 7+1. That’s the way I use it and it has never been a problem.
    I usually load a few, chamber one, then finish loading the mag to get to the 7+1.
    I’ve done the load one, chamber one and load 7 and I’ve loaded 7 chambered one and topped off the magazine. They all work, if they don’t there is something wrong with the gun.
     
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    woolleyworm Well-Known Member

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    Life is dicey always, so always 8+1 in my P220.
     
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  12. howlnmad

    howlnmad Well-Known Member

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    Yes I do. Full mag +1.
     
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  13. rglbegl

    rglbegl Well-Known Member

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    Program compliance
    Keeping your gear on you is the most important part.

    I highly doubt a bad guy is going to ask what caliber you are shooting them with.
     
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  14. drymag

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    While it does "seem" to make sense to only place one round in the mag, insert the mag, then rack the slide to load the tube. Then remove the empty mag and fully load the mag and re-insert the mag for the Full + 1.
    The question becomes, is it really safer or just seems safer? If you use this gun, shoot frequently, and it has never presented a problem w/ racking the slide to load one up, why would I then not trust the gun to load full + 1?
     
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  15. rglbegl

    rglbegl Well-Known Member

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    Racking the slide manually and the force of a bullet pushing the slide back are different.

    Some people have questioned if the bullet has enough power to overcome the slight extra friction of a full mag vs a -1 mag.

    I have seen it at the range with a few guns that will not properly feed the 2nd round if the magazine is 100% full.
     
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