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·seb1899
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(5/18/02 8:17:29 pm)
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I'm not sure if this the right venue but here goes-
We have a sword that was a "bring back" by my wife's uncle from Japan after WWll.
It is in excellemt condition but it is absolutely devoid of any markings. The people that have looked at it say it is of excellent quality and in remarkable condition but the handle/grip must be removed in order to see if this is an authentic "Samauri" sword.
Does this sound right and how much should I expect to pay for this service? Is it a difficult task and would I expect to have this done in a a major metropolitan market place and should I be present for the whole process?
I guess my faith in human nature is showing but I thought I should ask the experts.
Thanks for any help/advice that is given.
LIKTOSHOOT
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(5/18/02 9:01:40 pm)
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First it needs to be taken to a qualified person to verify and yes....some must have the handle wrappings removed to view the symbols/makers marks. This must be done "also" by a qualified person, because if they are damaged...it`s value does too. That is why you must have someone who is an expert to verify just what it is, as many cheap knockoffs were also brought back. Having the sheath is just as important and sometimes worth as much, or more than the sword. On a side note......most of these, "IF" truly original and of quailty....have been returned to the families of the original owners and more than likely.....you will be made aware of this program by a honest dealer. The families will pay for all shipping expenses. Once returned to it`s family line, you will have a friend/family afar for life. There is NO better feeling. Best LTS
T.F.F.
Rustybore
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(5/21/02 8:35:33 pm)
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I, too, have a bring back naval sword. I took it to a qualified person who disassembled the handle. Not a major process, as I watched the whole process. There is a small bamboo plug that is pushed out and the handle slips off, no damage to the wrapping. The tang underneath the handle has the makers marks, etc. Shouldn't take long, and is very interesting.
Kevin in Or.
cal414
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(6/9/02 9:08:43 am)
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LTS,
I had no idea that such a program existed. Any idea's how they tell who/what family it belonged to? I was under the impression that most swords in WWII were mass produced and issued, not personally owned heirlooms. Keep in mind that the ownership of "samari swords" in Japan is now illegal and any family that took ownership of one would have to jump thru legal hoops. Thanks LTS.
LIKTOSHOOT
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(7/3/02 6:37:35 pm)
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414, sorry I missed this. Yes there is a program in Japan for these. There were issued ones and there were "carried" into battle ones (self owned and handed down) Some of the Military issue can be traced too. The handle has to be removed (still recommend a pro do it) There will be symbols and charaters on the hilt. A paper transfer is needed (the old pencil and paper trick) There is a place where these symbols and charaters are registered. The families will pay for the shipping and sometimes great amounts of money (My feeling is it should be gifted back to them and I would suspect they would gladly pay for shipping.) As to the laws in Japan on these....I don`t know, but would expect the Government there does not give the family much grief in this area. Remember, real swords are a time of love, labor and very spritual.....a folding of hammered metal and soul. Any good pro who handles these will know how to look them up. Sorry for the delay.....just flat missed this. Regards LTS
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Posts: 13
(5/18/02 8:17:29 pm)
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I'm not sure if this the right venue but here goes-
We have a sword that was a "bring back" by my wife's uncle from Japan after WWll.
It is in excellemt condition but it is absolutely devoid of any markings. The people that have looked at it say it is of excellent quality and in remarkable condition but the handle/grip must be removed in order to see if this is an authentic "Samauri" sword.
Does this sound right and how much should I expect to pay for this service? Is it a difficult task and would I expect to have this done in a a major metropolitan market place and should I be present for the whole process?
I guess my faith in human nature is showing but I thought I should ask the experts.
Thanks for any help/advice that is given.
LIKTOSHOOT
*TFF Senior Staff*
Posts: 4903
(5/18/02 9:01:40 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del Re: Edged Item - Japanese Sword
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First it needs to be taken to a qualified person to verify and yes....some must have the handle wrappings removed to view the symbols/makers marks. This must be done "also" by a qualified person, because if they are damaged...it`s value does too. That is why you must have someone who is an expert to verify just what it is, as many cheap knockoffs were also brought back. Having the sheath is just as important and sometimes worth as much, or more than the sword. On a side note......most of these, "IF" truly original and of quailty....have been returned to the families of the original owners and more than likely.....you will be made aware of this program by a honest dealer. The families will pay for all shipping expenses. Once returned to it`s family line, you will have a friend/family afar for life. There is NO better feeling. Best LTS
T.F.F.
Rustybore
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Posts: 1
(5/21/02 8:35:33 pm)
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I, too, have a bring back naval sword. I took it to a qualified person who disassembled the handle. Not a major process, as I watched the whole process. There is a small bamboo plug that is pushed out and the handle slips off, no damage to the wrapping. The tang underneath the handle has the makers marks, etc. Shouldn't take long, and is very interesting.
Kevin in Or.
cal414
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Posts: 20
(6/9/02 9:08:43 am)
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LTS,
I had no idea that such a program existed. Any idea's how they tell who/what family it belonged to? I was under the impression that most swords in WWII were mass produced and issued, not personally owned heirlooms. Keep in mind that the ownership of "samari swords" in Japan is now illegal and any family that took ownership of one would have to jump thru legal hoops. Thanks LTS.
LIKTOSHOOT
*TFF Senior Staff*
Posts: 5303
(7/3/02 6:37:35 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del Re: Edged Item - Japanese Sword
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414, sorry I missed this. Yes there is a program in Japan for these. There were issued ones and there were "carried" into battle ones (self owned and handed down) Some of the Military issue can be traced too. The handle has to be removed (still recommend a pro do it) There will be symbols and charaters on the hilt. A paper transfer is needed (the old pencil and paper trick) There is a place where these symbols and charaters are registered. The families will pay for the shipping and sometimes great amounts of money (My feeling is it should be gifted back to them and I would suspect they would gladly pay for shipping.) As to the laws in Japan on these....I don`t know, but would expect the Government there does not give the family much grief in this area. Remember, real swords are a time of love, labor and very spritual.....a folding of hammered metal and soul. Any good pro who handles these will know how to look them up. Sorry for the delay.....just flat missed this. Regards LTS