Gay Marriage: Even Liberals Know It's Bad - by Frank Turek

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  1. Caneman

    Caneman Active Member

    Oct 22, 2010
    Gay Marriage: Even Liberals Know It's Bad
    — By Frank Turek Marriage: Even Liberals Know It's Bad

    Why not legalize same-sex marriage? Who could it possibly hurt? Children and the rest of society. That’s the conclusion of David Blankenhorn, who is anything but an anti-gay“bigot.” He is a life-long, pro-gay, liberal democrat who disagrees with the Bible’s prohibitions against homosexual behavior. Despite this, Blankenhorn makes a powerful case against Same-Sex marriage in his book, The Future of Marriage.

    He writes, “Across history and cultures . . . marriage’s single most fundamental idea is that every child needs a mother and a father. Changing marriage to accommodate same-sex couples would nullify this principle in culture and in law.”

    How so? The law is a great teacher, and same sex marriage will teach future generations that marriage is not about children but about coupling. When marriage becomes nothing more than coupling, fewer people will get married to have children.

    So what? People will still have children, of course, but many more of them out-of wedlock. That’s a disaster for everyone. Children will be hurt because illegitimate parents (there are no illegitimate children) often never form a family, and those that “shack up” break up at a rate two to three times that of married parents. Society will be hurt because illegitimacy starts a chain of negative effects that fall like dominoes—illegitimacy leads to poverty, crime, and higher welfare costs which lead to bigger government, higher taxes, and a slower economy.

    Are these just the hysterical cries of an alarmist? No. We can see the connection between same-sex marriage and illegitimacy in Scandinavian countries. Norway, for example, has had de-facto same-sex marriage since the early nineties. In Nordland,the most liberal county of Norway, where they fly “gay” rainbow flags over their churches, out-of-wedlock births have soared—more than 80percent of women giving birth for the first time, and nearly 70 percent of all children, are born out of wedlock! Across all of Norway, illegitimacy rose from 39 percent to 50 percent in the first decade of same-sex marriage.

    Anthropologist Stanley Kurtz writes,“When we look at Nordland and Nord-Troendelag — the Vermont and Massachusetts of Norway — we are peering as far as we can into the future of marriage in a world where gay marriage is almost totally accepted. What we see is a place where marriage itself has almost totally disappeared.” He asserts that “Scandinavian gay marriage has driven home the message that marriage itself is outdated, and that virtually any family form, including out-of-wedlock parenthood, is acceptable.” But it’s not just Norway. Blankenhorn reports this same trend in other countries. International surveys show that same-sex marriage and the erosion of traditional marriage tend to go together. Traditional marriage is weakest and illegitimacy strongest wherever same-sex marriage is legal.

    You might say, “Correlation doesn’t always indicate causation!” Yes, but often it does. Is there any doubt that liberalizing marriage laws impacts society for the worse? You need look no further than the last 40 years of no-fault divorce laws in the United States (family disintegration destroys lives and now costs taxpayers $112 billion per year!).

    No-fault divorce laws began in one state, California, and then spread to rest of the country. Those liberalized divorce laws helped change our attitudes and behaviors about the permanence of marriage. There’s no question that liberalized marriage laws will help change our attitudes and behaviors about the purpose of marriage. The law is a great teacher, and if same-sex marriage advocates have their way, children will be expelled from the lesson on marriage.

    This leads Blankenhorn to assert, “One can believe in same-sex marriage. One can believe that every child deserves a mother and a father. One cannot believe both.”Blankenhorn is amazed how indifferent homosexual activists are about the negative effects of same-sex marriage on children. Many of them, he documents, say that marriage isn’t about children.

    Well, if marriage isn’t about children, what institution is about children? And if we’re going to redefine marriage into mere coupling,then why should the state endorse same-sex marriage at all?

    Contrary to what homosexual activists assume, the state doesn’t endorse marriage because people have feelings for one another. The state endorses marriage primarily because of what marriage does for children and in turn society. Society gets no benefit by redefining marriage to include homosexual relationships, only harm as the connection to illegitimacy shows. But the very future of children and a civilized society depends on stable marriages between men and women. That’s why, regardless of what you think about homosexuality, the two types of relationships should never be legally equated.

    That conclusion has nothing to do with bigotry and everything to do with what’s best for children and society.Just ask pro-gay, liberal democrat David Blankenhorn.
  2. LyleLovett666

    LyleLovett666 Former Guest

    Apr 17, 2012
    obma's move is baffling.In even the most liberal of states the people will not vote to legalize gay marriage,so why do this?Wynton Hall has written an article that reveals the fact that one in six of obmas top bundlers are gay.Maybe not so baffling after all.A cheap,trashy man who will do anything(or anyone?)for money and power.

  3. Shoobee

    Shoobee Former Guest

    May 14, 2012
    Peoples Republik of Kalifornia
    The tv networks have also been puzzled about the timing of the Biden-Obm announcements.

    In the case of Dick Cheney it seemed a bit more sincere due to his daughter.

    I suspect the Biden-Obm announcements are political and the timing is to coincide with Romney's position in the RNC primaries.

    This is just one more polarizing issue that is not relevant to the upcoming elections in November, although a hot button item that resonates for about 10% of the electorate, although everyone has an opinion on it.

    Same is true of abortion, which causes polarization as well. It seems to me the USSC overstepped its bounds in "legislating" Roe v Wade from the bench, encroaching into states' rights territory.

    But it is not relevant to a national presidential election.

    The one bright spot in recent political appointments to the USSC has been John Roberts, who with a slim majority has demonstrated he can indeed read plain English, that the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. I am sure we all agree about that much.
  4. bamajoey

    bamajoey Well-Known Member

    Aug 17, 2009
    After reading the articles on obama being the first queer president, one of the "comments" at the end of the article expresses my opinion to a tee;

    "What a sad day in American history. Obama opened a Satanic demon inspired door. Homosexually has always been and will always be what God says it is; one of the doors that lead straight to hell. God loves people but he despises homosexuality. He has made his feelings about it clear in the old and new testament. Satan says it is a medical condition; If it was a medical condition that one has no control over, it would not be condemned in the scriptures. It is not a civil rights issue; it is a sin issue. Amen."

    What is our country comming to? Entitlements, half of the people not paying taxes, most if the people receiving Govt money of some sort, perverts marrying perverts, killing babies just because we don't want the responsibility, our so-called leader being called the first gay President. Lord, help us!
  5. Caneman

    Caneman Active Member

    Oct 22, 2010
    Today I Googled "how did Rome fall" and after reading some of the material it sounded very much like what has been going on in our country for the last 50 years...
  6. Deacon_Man

    Deacon_Man Active Member

    Feb 23, 2010
    Weatherford Texas
    Obumer is trying to get your attention off health care and no jobs, gas prices and ect..
    He can gain a few votes from the queers but he will lose his ass if he can't get your mind off the real issues.
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