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Some years back I bought a Mauser 98k byf 44 at a Gun Show. This rifle was a Russian Capture piece, but still retained the German markings. Most all of the numbers are mismatched like all RC Mausers. Somehow it missed being stamped with an "Importer's Mark".

None of this matters to me, because I wanted a shooting example of a 98k - not a collector piece. I have put this rifle back into original configuration, but one thing still has me puzzled: being a 1944 production, should this rifle have a milled or a stamped front band?

It had a milled trigger guard, but I have replaced it with a byf 44 marked stamped 'guard. The stock doesn't look to be laminated. Other parts I've since added/replaced are the cleaning rod, the 'guard lock screws, the front sight hood and the sling.

I've posted this before, but the bore was dark and was extremely copper fouled. I cleaned the daylights out of it with solvent, Sweets and JB Bore Paste. It is now absolutely clean and the bore is excellent with no pitting and crisp rifling. I used hundreds of cleaning patches before I finished it. This rifle is just what I wanted - a fantastic shooter that looks like it did when it was issued.

One last note. The stock was in great condition - except for one peculiar exception: there was a deep impression of someone's upper teeth on the wrist of the stock. I'm thinking someone had a really bad day when they surrendered that rifle... I filled in the impression, but left the filler to remain visible. I did very lightly sand the stock and hand guard and finished it with several coats Tru-Oil satin hand rubbed in.

Just curious about that front band. The milled band looks great, but I'm not sure if they still used those by 1944. If anyone knows for sure I appreciate the info. Thanks!
 

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Jim, by late 1944 they used just about what ever was handy. Your BYF started getting the stamped and welded band somewhere in the "L" block near as I can tell. By 1944 and into 1945, arsenal repairs were in full swing, and there was a number of un-serial numbered milled bands used, so if that's what you like, it'll be correct.
Edit to add: Jim, before you buy one, let me check the Mauser parts box, I might have one you can have.
 

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Thanks, Trap! Mine is milled with very faint numbers stamped. Looks good to me, so I'll guess I'll live with it. Great information, BTW. Boy, this thing is a great shooter. Mostly load 1935/1936 German Ball into modern Winchester cases with the old bullets and powder round-for-round. Still have 3 or 4 sealed German cases left. Shoots better than I can hold.

I acquired a box of black tip German ammo. Don't know if the Germans used the same "black tip = armor piercing" that we use. I asked around but never got an answer on that...
 

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As TRAP55 mentioned , by 1944 rifles were being put together/repaired with anything that would fit. You are just as likely to see one rifle with a milled trigger guard and the next one with a winter guard.
If you know exactly what you need, ( send pic ) I too will look through my mauser junk box and if I have it , will send it your way.
 

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German black tip is usually Armor Piercing Tracer, with red primer sealer, you can about bet on it. Very bright for about 800yrds! I found that out "thinking" their black tip must be the same as ours. Not!
The good thing about tracers is, you can see where they go. The bad thing, everyone else can see where they came from.
 

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Sheesh! A great write up about tuning up an fine old German warhorse & not a single picture of the finished project or a range report?!

Jim, you really know how to let a guy down.... :(

SR :D
 

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Sheesh! A great write up about tuning up an fine old German warhorse & not a single picture of the finished project or a range report?!

Jim, you really know how to let a guy down.... :(

SR :D
My apologies! I'll try to sweet talk my better half into taking some pictures and I will post them. I only wish I could take some pictures of that bore. That impressed me the most. May take a few days but I will work on it.
 

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Thanks for the porn Jim... :cheers:

Your rifle is outstanding, especially the hand rubbed furniture! :thumbsup:
(& the sling is pretty sweet too!)

SR
 
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