Grass vs Guns ........

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by JohnHenry, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. JohnHenry

    JohnHenry Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2011
    Livingston county, Michigan
  2. jack404

    jack404 Former Guest

    Jan 11, 2010
    ok if its a legit medical value , then no , possession of guns should not be curtailed ,

    usage / thats another matter .... do you have rules on booze and guns ?

    if the dope rules are socialist BS ( i honestly dunno so i think if its legit , its medicine )

    then say so and just decriminalise pot , it'll screw up the dealer structure , charge folks a licence fee's and industrial electricity rates so they can grow at home like south australia used to do , pot became boring ..

    but if its medical as in medical doctors says this id fact then to block gun ownership is discrimination on medical grounds ( not mental either ) wrong wrong wrong , and wrong

  3. medalguy

    medalguy Member

    Feb 20, 2009
    New Mexico
    Medical MJ may be legal in some states, but it is still federally prohibited. No issue here as I see the law, clear cut. Don't get mad at ATF, get mad at Congress. They are the ones who passed the law.
  4. HunterAlpha1

    HunterAlpha1 Former Guest

    Aug 8, 2011
    Yorktown, VA
    no, get mad at all of them. sure, congress may pass the law, but it is individual ATF agents who enforce it. if they didn't enforce it, if they had the backbone to stand up and say, "no, this is wrong, i won't do this", then this country would be a much more pleasant place to live.
  5. hogger129

    hogger129 Well-Known Member

    Nov 29, 2009

    Yes we have rules on booze and guns. Here in WI, the law that's about to take effect - it's absolute sobriety. On your own property is another story.
  6. jbmid1

    jbmid1 Well-Known Member

    Feb 3, 2011
    Tucson, AZ
    Well...To be (prescribed) marijuana don't you have to visit a (doctor) and be diagnosed with an (ailment) for which marijuana allaegedly provides (relief)? If it is for any kind of a mental condition, you are probably already disqualified from firearm ownership, right?

    And, is it just me, or do the states with the most liberal laws concerning marijuana also have the strictest laws concerning gun ownership?
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2011
  7. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    Jul 28, 2008
    DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of E. Texas!
    “There are no exceptions in federal law for marijuana purportedly used for medicinal purposes, even if such use is sanctioned by state law,” said the letter by Arthur Herbert, the ATF’s assistant director for enforcement programs and services".

    Another example of the erosion of State Sovereignty. Ninth, and Tenth Amendments.

    ”The powers delegated to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the state governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, [such] as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce. The powers reserved to the several states will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people".
  8. Bobitis

    Bobitis Guest

    Not sure, but Washington State is vastly liberal. Yet we have open carry, right to conceal carry, and right to defend laws.

    Our own LEO's were paramount in trashing this initiative.,_Initiative_676_(1997)

    And we are currently working on legalization of MJ.

    Speaking from personal experience from my youth, I can say without a doubt that smoking or eating pot hightened my awareness levels in all my senses. Stuff tasted, smelled, sounded, looked, felt, etc., better. Reading and learning were greatly enhanced as well.

    Alcohol is an entirely different matter, and the two cannot even be compared. Yet we endorse drinking. That's messed up.

    I've never seen an angry pot smoker.

    The reason the fed won't legalize it is because they would in turn be obligated to legalize growing hemp. Hemp (the wonder plant) is at the heart of the matter. And big money doesn't want to see it happen. Wacky tabacky is the tool they use to see it never happens.
  9. 45Auto

    45Auto Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2008
    A bit of history: Prior to the 1920's pot and other drugs were legal. But Prohibition of the 1920's outlawed not only booz but pot and various other drugs. Organized crime got rich quick! Al Capone and people like him battled for controle of the illegal booz trade.

    When they repealed prohibition only booz was made legal again. I'm not sure why booz was ok but pot was not?

    I don't like pot and never did, but I see the costs of regulating the illegal drug trade are far greater than back in the days of Al Capone. The booz gangsters of the 1920's/1930's are nothing compared with the drug lords of today.
  10. al45lc

    al45lc Active Member

    Mar 8, 2010
    colorful colorado
    Agreed, nothing more than flagrant power mongering by the feds, AGAIN.
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