Have pain? Inquiring Sherriffs wants to know.

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  1. Trouble 45-70

    Trouble 45-70 New Member

    Apr 10, 2009
    NE Ar. W. of Black River
    Let's see, Hurt my back, get a prescription and right away the Sheriffs drug task force shows up. What Oxycontin in the medicine cabinet? Look out there is a shot gun by the bed! Imagine how it goes from here.


    BY LYNN BONNER - staff writer

    Sheriffs in North Carolina want access to state computer records identifying anyone with prescriptions for powerful painkillers and other controlled substances.

    The state sheriff's association pushed the idea Tuesday, saying the move would help them make drug arrests and curb a growing problem of prescription drug abuse. But patient advocates say opening up people's medicine cabinets to law enforcement would deal a devastating blow to privacy rights.

    Allowing sheriffs' offices and other law enforcement officials to use the state's computerized list would vastly widen the circle of people with access to information on prescriptions written for millions of people. As it stands now, doctors and pharmacists are the main users.
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    Nearly 30 percent of state residents received at least one prescription for a controlled substance, anything from Ambien to OxyContin, in the first six months of this year, according to the state Department of Health and Human Services. Nearly 2.5 million people filled prescriptions in that time for more than 375 million doses. The database has about 53.5 million prescriptions in it.

    Sheriffs made their pitch Tuesday to a legislative health care committee looking for ways to confront prescription drug abuse. Local sheriffs said that more people in their counties die of accidental overdoses than from homicides.

    For years, sheriffs have been trying to convince legislators that the state's prescription records should be open to them.

    "We can better go after those who are abusing the system," said Lee County Sheriff Tracy L. Carter.

    Others say opening up patients' medicine cabinets to law enforcement is a terrible idea.

    "I am very concerned about the potential privacy issues for people with pain," said Candy Pitcher of Cary, who volunteers for the nonprofit American Pain Foundation. "I don't feel that I should have to sign away my privacy rights just because I take an opioid under doctor's care." Pitcher is receiving treatment for a broken back.

    The ACLU opposed a bill in 2007 that would have opened the list to law enforcement officials, said ACLU lobbyist Sarah Preston. The organization would likely object to the new proposal.

    "What really did concern us is the privacy aspect," she said. Opening the record to more users could deter someone from getting necessary medicine because of the fear that others would find out, she said, "particularly in small towns where everybody knows everybody."

    The state started collecting the information in 2007 to help doctors identify patients who go from doctor to doctor looking for prescription drugs they may not need, and to keep pharmacists from supplying patients with too many pills. But only about 20 percent of the state's doctors have registered to use the information, and only 10 percent of the pharmacies are registered.

    Many chain pharmacies aren't connected to the Internet, said Andy Ellen, a lobbyist for the N.C. Retail Merchants Association. Pharmacy computers work on closed systems so they won't be vulnerable to viruses that could slow or crash their networks. Pharmacies are trying to figure out a way around that obstacle to the controlled-substance prescriptions list, he said.

    Bettie Blanchard, a woman from Dare County whose adult son is recovering from addiction to prescription drugs, said doctors should be required to consult the list when prescribing controlled substances.

    She also wants doctors to get more education on prescribing narcotics. Doctors should be required to tell patients that the medicine they are being prescribed can be addictive, she said.

    William Bronson, who works in a drug control unit at DHHS, presented what could be a compromise to the sheriffs' request - allowing local drug investigators to request information related to ongoing investigations, but not let them go in to the computer records themselves.

    Eddie Caldwell, lobbyist for the N.C. Sheriff's Association, said the level of access to the data is up for discussion.

    "There's a middle ground where the sheriffs and their personnel working on these drug abuse cases get the information they need in a way that protects the privacy of that information," he said. "No one wants every officer in the state to be able to log on and look it up."
    lynn.bonner@newsobserver.com or 919-829-4821

    Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/09/08/669723/lists-of-pain-pillpatients-sought.html#ixzz0z2ngj5LR
  2. Old Grump

    Old Grump New Member

    Feb 21, 2010
    Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin
    I am holding up two fingers, one is for picking my nose the other is for any Sheriff anywhere who wants a look at my medical record or pharmacy records.

  3. jacksonco

    jacksonco New Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Jackson County West Virginia
    There is absolutely no respect for the US Constitution. The Fourth Amendment forbids this behavior. But then the progressives don't much care for that document. It puts to many restraints on government.
  4. 199er

    199er New Member

    May 5, 2010
    Columbia SC
    ...... The ACLU opposed this in 2007???.......now that's a surprise to me!!

    ........... and what this sheriff wants to do would not also abuse the system? The NC citizens should be aware of the very obvious; It is a violation of doctor patient privilege and a blatent intrusion into thier right to privacy and if this proposal did become law it would cause the already available 'black market' for prescription drug abuse to rapidly expand................how is that going to enable the sheriff to better go after those abusing the system beyond providing him a larger pool of violators to go after

    .....how about the sheriff's reelection/removal from office, is it that up for discussion too??? Wether or not this proposal goes any further, Sheriff Carter should be immediately placed on the 'endangered species list'.

    This is another example of 'government trying to protect us from ourselves', which as usual, would open the door for heaven knows what else to follow.
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2010
  5. 199er

    199er New Member

    May 5, 2010
    Columbia SC
    Here's a photo of Sheriff Carter along with his Bio.................

    Sheriff Carter photo 2010.jpg

    Sheriff Tracy Lynn Carter was born in Lee County on June 1, 1966. He graduated from Lee Senior High School in 1984 and then attended Campbell University where he received a BAS in Human Services and Criminal Justice in 1989. Sheriff Carter also holds an Advanced Certificate in Law Enforcement from the North Carolina Sheriff's Training and Standards Commission. He is a 2006 Graduate of the North Carolina Sheriff's Leadership Institute. Sheriff Tracy Carter began his career in law enforcement with the Lee County Sheriff's Office in 1986, working as a jail officer, deputy sheriff and DARE officer.

    In 1993, he left the Sheriff's Office to become the first Chief of Lee County School's Special Police, where he served until 2006.

    Sheriff Carter was elected Sheriff of Lee County in November 2006.

    Sheriff Carter serves on the board for the Boys and Girls Club of Sanford and Lee County. He is a member of the San Lee Sunrise Rotary Club, the Lee County Wildlife Club and a member of the Church of God of Prophecy.

    In his spare time, he enjoys hunting, fishing, camping and visiting the NC coast with his family. He and his wife Angie have been married since 1988 and has four children.
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2010
  6. obxned

    obxned Active Member

    Mar 4, 2007
    He could be a very nice guy, but people's medical records are not his business.
  7. glocknut

    glocknut Active Member

    Dec 14, 2003

    My Roids are my business and no one elses.... :D

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