Help on (another) H&R Top Break

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  1. joh45

    joh45 New Member

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    I want to send this to my brother who lives cross country but don't know if this would be categorized as an Antique to save on FFL costs.

    No markings on the side so it is a black powder gun with a lanyard loop with a serial number 47515 with markings on the top 7483.png 85746232.png .

    EDIT: H&A not H&R, sorry about that.
     
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  2. hrf

    hrf Well-Known Member

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    There are no H&A factory or serial number records but you probably lucked out because in 1898 they reorganized and changed name from H&A Mfg. Co. to H&A Arms Co. The folding hammer spur is also not found on their later revolvers.
     
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  3. Dog Soldier

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    The 1968 Firearms law also prohibits any firearm made before 1895 regarding ammunition. Even though the gun falls under the age exclusion of 1898 what caliber is it?
    If the ammunition is manufactured in the United States and readily available the gun falls under the same restrictions as a modern firearm. 18 USC 921 of the 1968 Gun Control Act.
     
  4. RJay

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    Merwin,Hulbert & Company was not a firearm manufacturer, but rather one of a group of New York sporting goods distributers who also owned controlling interest in H&A. It is not unusual to find two identical guns, one with Merwin ,Hulbert marking and the other marked Hopkins and Allen ( Hopkins and Allen made all the guns regardless of whose name was on them ). Your gun is identical to the M&H small frame double action revolver shown in Flayderman's ( page 495 ), made in the 1880's It even has the folding hammer, it only lacks the lanyard ring ( which is a factory or local add on ). Flayderman's does state it is not usually encountered with Hopkins and Allen markings, but: it does not say they were never so marked.. IMO you have a firearm made in the 1880's that was sold under both the Hopkins and Allen's and Merwin ,Hulbert names. Hope that helps.
     
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  5. joh45

    joh45 New Member

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    Thank you very much along with
    it will do much to cover my bases.


    This is a common misconception, the law being
    The common caliber restriction applies to reproductions and replicas.
     
  6. Dog Soldier

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    A side note. The Merwin & Hulbert was a most interesting and beautiful handgun. There was a small startup company making reproductions in the gun center at Douglas, Wyoming. They must have went under, too bad.