Hi all, newbie question.

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  1. Levi England

    Levi England New Member

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    I've been shooting fo 50 years, have Military training and really believe in firearm safety. I own Glocks and a Henry. Have a question. I reloaded 30 .06 Waaaay back when but its bee probably 35 yrs. Due to all the BS associated with ammo i am back into reloading . 40 SW ia impossible to find even with a Calif. license. My 410 is for varmints and clays. Damned things can go for as much as $2.00 a shell. I can find NO info on reloading .410 bore. No dies for my press. Any ideas?
     
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  2. Wild Turkey Cogburn

    Wild Turkey Cogburn Well-Known Member

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    Get a MEC, Pacific or Lee LoadAll .410 loader. Used ones occassionally show up.

    Shotshell load manuals have many recipes. .410 is CHEAP to load and not difficult.

    I remember years ago, there were .410 dies available for metallic cartridge presses

    The 5 MECs I have, have never let me down
     

  3. mikld

    mikld Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the wonderful, oft confusing and frustrating world of reloading. I can't remember any 410 dies for regular reloading presses (don't mean they don't exist, I just haven't seen any), and agree with Mr. Cogburn, a dedicated shotshell reloading press is the best way to get started.
     
  4. BAH

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    I was having the same problem of finding reloading formulas for my Judges. I have a MEC for 12 ga and 16 ga (and MEC will do 410) but I do my 410 by hand. I didn't want plastic wads left all over the property so I was on my own.

    <WARNING> My life, my finger, my face, my gun. You are on your own. <WARNING>

    I reuse my plastic 410 hulls. Cut the fold off the end. Prime with W209. Add 7 gn of Alliant Unique. Pack #N7 .410ga x .070 Nitro card. Pack #FC410 x 1/2" Fiber Cushion wad. Add 250 gn #9 shot. Pack #OS41 .410 ga OverShot Card. Add Elmers Glue over the top to seal in the goodness.

    Magtech .410 brass will NOT fit in all Judges, that is why I have 2. These use a WLP primer. Then 7 gn Alliant Unique. Pack NC#430 Nitro Card. Pack a FC#430 1/2" Fiber Cushion Wad. Add 250 gn #9 shot. Pack #OS450 Overshot card. And Elmers Glue to seal the deal.

    I have also used Win 231 powder but I like Alliant Unique better.

    I use bolts to deprime and pack shell contents. The black one has seen a lathe. The silver one is just to pack contents. Shotshell components came from BallisticProducts.com 20200629_063152.jpg
     
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  5. sharps4590

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    My first thought was a Lee Load All but I didn't know if they made them for .410. Do or did they ever make the whack-a-mole for the .410? That could be another option.

    And welcome from the Ozarks.
     
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  7. pdkfishing

    pdkfishing Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Welcome to TFF. As BAH stated, easy to reload plastic 410 hulls by hand. I use plastic wads and follow published data, except for an overshot wad sealed with candle wax. Hodgdon's online website has plenty of data. :twocents:
     
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  8. Larry Isaacs

    Larry Isaacs Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Just a note LEE load all will not load .410.

    Larry
     
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  9. ricochet rabbit

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    Get a manual first, then pick up a press. I agree with Lee Load All 2 or MEC. While you're acquiring these collect your spent hulls and components. The manual will tell give you choices on shotshell primers, powders and wads along with the recipe's.
    I have a Lee Load All 2 that I bought 2nd hand with 20 gauge set up and ordered the 12 gauge set up from FS Reloading. It works very well for newbies and it's easy to use. I don't have an MEC so I can't speak for them but I have heard nothing but good of them.
    Lee made a set up for the Lee LoadAll 2 for 410 gauge.
     
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  10. sharps4590

    sharps4590 Well-Known Member

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    They would be easy enough to load by hand and if BPI makes a roll crimper, that would be an option.
     
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    If you're looking for a roll crimper, I saw a post somewhere a while back, don't remember where but this guy bought a pre-made wooden wheel for like wooden hobby cars and trucks. According to the poster it fit 12 gauge shot shells perfectly. He put a small bolt through the center with a washer and nut on the opposite side. He chucked the bolt into a drill press and used it for a roll crimper, supposedly worked great. I'll see if I can find the post and link it.
     
  14. Firpo

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    Another vote for MEC, especially if you’re going to do much. I have one for 410, 20, 16, 12 and may even have one for 28 gauge. They are built to last a lifetime. While 410 is about the most expensive to buy its the cheapest to reload. Enjoy.
     
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