[RMM]

Hello all and happy holidays,
I have a question as to a detail strip of the frame of this piece. First allow me to apologize if this has been asked and answered elsewhere on this forum but every time I search, no matter the wording/sequence it returns nothing found, which I know is not true. I'm probably doing something wrong but anyway. The info I'm looking for is the proper order of disassembly and reassembly, by the numbers, for this pistol since I do not want to turn it into 70 year old paperweight. I was given this pistol by a friend for fixing some 1911's for him.
Obviously field stripping this properly was not difficult and fully breaking down the slide is not a problem either. But the finish on this is shot and someone actually carved (etched) their name into the right flat of the slide! Probably about 60 years ago from the way it looked. Since this is not a rare or historical piece, I am going to strip it and either reblue it or Duracoat it, I'm still pondering that. I know these are great shooters and very accurate as I have shot this model many times in the past, so I know it's worth the time and energy. This was also missing its slide lock spring and the driving (recoil) spring needs replacing, those parts I found and ordered so we're good there. This is, as stated a High Standard H-D Military (6.75" barrel, walnut grips with the pinhole on the back of the frame for access to the hammer spring?) that was made in early 1948 and has not been modified (at least not the slide or anything else I've gotten to).
I've searched everywhere I can and have not been able to find this info anywhere, tons of helpful info on field stripping and the slide as well, but I can find very little on the lower. I do have the schematic on this so I just need the correct order of disassembly and any tips/tricks from those who are well versed on this pistol.
Sorry for this wordy post but I've found it's easier to answer questions when you have a detailed question up front.
Thank you much for any info or guidance to a post containing this info.

 

[Shooter45]

http://stevespages.com/page7b.htm

 

[RMM]

Shooter45, a great site that I've referenced many times in the past. I do have copies of the owners manual and the instructions on the original rear sight. But unless I am missing something there, I can find no info on a total disassembly of the frame. I do know that the barrel can also be removed but as I see no problems there, and since it a press fit, I'm not interested in removing it. I do appreciate you passing that on. Thank you.

 

[gvw3]

 

[gvw3]

 

[LDBennett]

What you want is a tutorial on a complete disassembly/assembly. American Gunsmithing Institute (AGI) offers such a video for Hi Std pistols. It covers the HD and all the later ones including the 107. The presenter is an old time real gunsmith who taught gunsmithing for years, had a huge shop with 8 gunsmith employees, and still operates a much smaller shop with one of his best students. He knows guns...ALL GUNS.

The details are all there including for the HD and earlier guns still. Brownells sell the video:

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...anual-and-armorer-s-course-dvd-prod41561.aspx

LDBennett

 

[RMM]

What you want is a tutorial on a complete disassembly/assembly. American Gunsmithing Institute (AGI) offers such a video for Hi Std pistols. It covers the HD and all the later ones including the 107. The presenter is an old time real....

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-t...anual-and-armorer-s-course-dvd-prod41561.aspx

LDBennett

I believe you are correct, I'm guessing it is much more complicated than most and that's the reason this information is not out there.....anywhere. Well, I gave it my best shot so I guess I'll check into this AGI video. Funny thing is, I think it is Bob Dunlap who is featured on those and you are correct, he's the way to go. Thanks much for taking the time to respond.

 

[LDBennett]

Unless they updated this video(???) it is indeed Bob Dunlap. I love his videos because he explains details of the operation too. This particular video covers early to late Hi Std target pistols. The earlier pistol can be turned into a paper weight if you do not follow the takedown instruction exactly in the order Bob gives. But you are beyond that. Do take note of that order, though. I have many of the AGI takedown videos. I also, for some time, subscribed to the AGI Video magazine. In the early days of AGI the end of the video magazine had a takedown video section of some of the less known guns done by Bob's partner in the gunsmithing shop (forgot his name..I'm terrible with names!). I have a video for most of my many guns. Sure hope they never do away with DVD readers or I'm screwed. I have a couple on VHS tapes and nothing to play them on. Fortunately it is for guns I rarely take down.

Enjoy the video.

LDBennett

 

[RMM]

Again, you are spot on. I checked Brownells for that video and unfortunately they are on back order. But that's ok, I think I know where I can pick one up. You also bring up a good point for anyone else reading this, I've found in my 40+ years of enjoying this sport, that being impatient and just "diving in" without doing your research is the fastest and most positive method of destroying whatever you happen to be dealing with! I've also noticed lately that many young folks have adopted a complete disdain for instructions of any sort. I don't know, am I missing something? Guess I'm just getting older and I'm no longer with it, but that's ok. If that's what "it" is all about today, then I don't really want to be. Anyway, enough of my old man grumbling. Since I have no need for "paperweights" at this stage of the game, I am spending all my time learning everything I can about these since they are somewhat new to me. And I'm picking up a lot of the tricks concerning these earlier High Standards, and it's all a bonus even though much of it has little if anything to do with a detail strip.
I'm sure you may have thought about this already but you can take those old video tapes and have them transferred onto a DVD, even though as you say, you don't use them much anymore but that is still highly valuable information. I shouldn't think there would be any copyright infractions since you have already paid for them and are just trying to put them into a form that you can actually use if needed again. Another thought for you would be to try to "future proof" what you have already and put them all on a portable hard drive, one terabyte drives are relatively cheap nowadays (500 gig even cheaper) and that way your covered for a quite a long time, I think we're not too far away from the DVD going the way of CD's. Everything will just be downloaded.
Well that topic sure got away from me in a hurry but thanks again for that, I had completely forgot about that AGI series of gunsmithing, but I'm still glad I've searched anyway!

 

[LDBennett]

You can order directly from AGI.

The way computers are going they may eventually do away with hard drives too.They keep changing the port connectors and you can have a perfectly good hard drive and no way to connect it to anything. More and more computers are coming with SSD drives which are semiconductor memory with no moving parts. But they too are not forever. But hey, I am not forever either and I haven't that many years left. I doubt storage device will change that much before I am in a home somewhere sitting in a wheel chair drooling, and not aware of anything. At 75 next Tuesday that day gets closer and closer.

I did copy one of the important tapes (CZ75B) but unfortunately it is a bit noisy but still viewable.

LDBennett

 

[RMM]

Don't you know it! Ill bet the marketing people that first ordered the engineering team to invent "designed obsolescence" never in their wildest dreams thought they would be able to get away with pushing a $2000.00 whatever as the absolute latest and greatest available, and then turn around the next month and say scrap all that garbage and get this latest and greatest...and great news, we got the price down to $1500.00! And, and to have it work without people wanting to string you up! Those people are either pure genius...or Lucifer incarnate!

RMM

 

[RMM]

By the way, happy upcoming birthday, the diamond jubilee! Enjoy!

 

[RMM]

Quick update, I got the AGI video on High Standard and right now my frame is completely stripped and all of its subassembly's are safely soaking in oil. Even though the video concentrates on a "newer" model, it is close enough. Also Mr. Dunlap goes over the differences between the HD M and the Victor that he actually uses for demonstration. A very good video indeed. Thanks to LDBennett for reminding me about these gunsmithing AGI dvd's. I should have the parts I ordered for this in a few more days and am hoping to have it completely reassembled and back to fully functional by the end of this weekend. With any luck this will join me at the range sometime next week! Thanks to those that responded!

 

[LDBennett]

Those gunsmiths out there who graduated from the gunsmithing school Bob Dunlap headed so many years ago got the best possible gunsmithing education. Bob never just takes things apart. He explains how and why things work. His explanations are very clear. I always learn a thing or two from his AGI videos. The guy that owns AGI is one of those graduates and when Bob retired over 20 years ago he convinced Bob do do these videos and the Master home study videos. I always wanted to take the super course but the costs where just too much in retirement. Now if I had the desire to work as a gunsmith (Not in the cards for an old fart like me) I definitely would consider the investment for the super courses. In the meantime the specific gun AGI videos meet my needs and I have one for most of my guns plus the Trigger Job mini course (expensive! but extremely useful as it teaches the principals as well as does examples).

LDBennett