Every couple thousand roundshow often should my 22 rifles and pistols be cleaned. I know 22 is a dirty round but i am curious as to how often they should be cleaned
I'm the same way! I have never owned a rifle, of any caliber, that would shoot as good clean, as it does fouled.My 22 rimfires are the only guns that I put away after shooting without cleaning the bore. I clean the powder and crap from the action, wipe the exterior with Weapon Shield and leave the bore untouched.
I found that they like a fouled bore and shoot tighter groups. So rather than needing to fire 20 rounds to get it back after cleaning I just don't do a bore cleaning very often. There is no harm in doing what I do.
When accuracy drops I will then clean the bore with a cleaning rod, Hoppes, brass brush, cleaning patches. I have no use for bore snakes...they are only good for a half*** cleaning of the bore so I either do it right or not at all with my rimfires.
I like the Otis system too! One of the best inventions for firearms in a long time!Talking about cleaning methods for the bore of 22's, I use the Otis System.
It is a plastic covered steel cable which you feed through from the chamber end, pulling it with either a cleaning patch or the provided bore brush. The patch has six working areas. I can clean any 22 bore with two patches (the Otis unique circular patches). I use one side three times initially (a new area of the patch wetted with their solvent each time) then pull the wetted brush through about 5 or more times. I then use the other side of the wetted patch for three more times to remove the fouling the brush released. I follow that with two pull throughs of a dry patch and one pull through of the last area of the dry patch that I saturate with gun oil. Bore cleaning is easy this way, and not messy at all. There is no reason to not clean a 22 bore when it is this easy. I have not noticed that my 22 gun barrels need fouling to shoot well but maybe my personal accuracy limits are worse than GunHugger's (??).
LDBennett
:yeahthat::thumbsup::thumbsup:My 22 rimfires are the only guns that I put away after shooting without cleaning the bore. I clean the powder and crap from the action, wipe the exterior with Weapon Shield and leave the bore untouched.
I found that they like a fouled bore and shoot tighter groups. So rather than needing to fire 20 rounds to get it back after cleaning I just don't do a bore cleaning very often. There is no harm in doing what I do.
When accuracy drops I will then clean the bore with a cleaning rod, Hoppes, brass brush, cleaning patches. I have no use for bore snakes...they are only good for a half*** cleaning of the bore so I either do it right or not at all with my rimfires.
So for us ignorant folk who clean their barrels each time we use our .22 firearms:I clean my rimfires every 11 years whether they need it or not. And that's just how long it took before my old Marlin 60 took before it stopped cycling and forced me to clean the action. Once in a great while I did run a rag (hillbilly style - a piece of cotton tied on a string with a nail tied on the other end to get the string through) through it once a year or so. There were no bore snakes in those days.
Lots of barrel makers will tell you NOT to over clean the bore. They say it will just clean out the lube your rifle needs to be more accurate. I'm talking to quality barrel makers say that.
Every rifle is different. Some need to be cleaned often. I would never let a handgun go a long time between cleanings. I generally clean those every time. Same goes for shotguns. Now those things are dirty. But a .22 doesn't have that much powder even if it is dirty powder. The thing to avoid is using oil on the action because it collects powder residue and that will make you have to clean the gun a lot more often.
That old 60 I have - I've probably cleaned it less than 10 times since I bought it 24 years ago. It's got probably 150,000 rounds through it. It still works perfectly. My new 60 (a 2009 model) needs to be cleaned more often though. I've probably cleaned it 10 times or more. It gets to where it won't cycle. Every rifle is an individual.
Generally it is true for most people that cleaning too often decreases your accuracy. I know it takes me about 50 rounds to foul a barrel so that it shoots right if I clean a rimfire really well. Some of the bench rest shooters will clean after every 10 rounds though. They use very tight bores and they can still maintain accuracy if they clean really often. But keep in mind that the fastest way to wear out a .22 barrel is to clean it really often. I know a guy who is a world class rimfire BR shooter. He replaces barrels after about 800 rounds. I can shoot that much in a day easy.