Hydrogen Peroxide and Vinegar Bore Cleaner?

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    WyomingSwede
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    Anybody hear anything about using this in a 50-50 combination to clean dark bores in mil-surp rifles. Sounds interesting and cheap enough. Anyone with any experience with it??? swede
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    (10/13/02 1:31:13 pm)
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    I recall it was discussed on an other forum and someone had
    real bad luck with it..Can't remember exactly but maybe
    bad rusting or corrosion..Said that it was not good for the barrel..
    I don't think I would try it..FP-10 works great...

    1952Sniper
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    I think I had heard something like this on another board. But the solution was used in conjunction with a home-made anode setup using batteries and such. It was an hours-long process that used the chemical properties with low-voltage DC electricity to clean the fouling and corrosion and such out of the bore. It looked pretty slick to me. I'll have to search around and see if I can find the web page that described the process.
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    That combination of an oxidizer and a weak acid is guaranteed to cause rust and pitting if left in contact with steel for any appreciable time.
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    Right. As I recall, this method using DC voltage in the solution was described as a "last-ditch" effort to save an otherwise unusable bore. And it was highly recommended that you pay close attention to the progress. I've never tried it, so I can't say whether it works or what the long-term effects would be.

    WyomingSwede, does this sound like what you heard? Or was it just a mixture to swab the bore with?
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    I was told to cap the chamber with some putty and leave in bore no loger than 10 minutes. Then flush with a gallon of boiling water. It was said to be hard on the finish.
    Then clean as usual. Thats what I know.
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    Is this for an extremely dirty bore that nothing else will work on?
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    that stuff you put on rust, it foams up then you rinse it off with water. Leaves metal nice an shiny, but you have to oil right away cause it will rust within minutes.



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    Naval jelly will eat right through bluing... just keep that in mind.
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    I have tried it. It really removes lead well. Put a sodden patch through and let soak for a few minutes but no longer. Then start cleaning. It can mess up the finish though, and be sure to flush with water, dry then clean as usual.

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    I ran thi sby my wife the chemistry major. She said probably the peroxide would bubble and foam alot and oxidize the organic components of the sludge, and the acid in the vinegar would help keep the metal from rusting, which it would normally do when wet oxygen is applied to it. She said the phosporic acid in the naval jelly would work better than vinegar, and suggests using white vinegar, which is a petroleum product, rather than cider vinegar, which is salad dressing.

    But she added that was just a guess.


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