I think Pelosi just stepped in it.

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  1. artabr

    artabr New Member

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    No stories out yet but Pelosi has just stated that she/they were not briefed on water boarding when she was the ranking Dem. on the House Intelligence Committee.
    Others claim they were when they signed off on the program. Someone is lying. Any bets on who. :rolleyes:

    I'll post the story when it hits the web.


    http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0409/Pelosi_I_didnt_know_about_waterboarding.html?

    April 23, 2009
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    Pelosi: I didn't know about waterboarding

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is pushing back on GOP charges that she knew about waterboarding for years and did nothing.

    Pelosi says she was briefed by Bush administration officials on the legal justification for using waterboarding -- but that they never followed through on promises to inform her when they actually began using "enhanced" interrogation techniques

    "In that or any other briefing…we were not, and I repeat, we're not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation techniques were used. What they did tell us is that they had some legislative counsel…opinions that they could be used," she told reporters today.

    Earlier, House Minority Leader John Boehner (D-Ohio) criticized Pelosi and other Democratic leaders for backing probes into the use of waterboarding -- after failing to raise objections during briefings on its potential use.

    "Well, yesterday I saw a partial list of the number of members of the House and Senate, Democrats and Republicans, who were briefed on these interrogation methods and not a word was raised at the time, not one word," Boehner told reporters at his weekly news availability.

    "And I think you're going to hear more and more about the bigger picture here, that what -- the war on terror after 9/11 was done in a bipartisan basis on lots of fronts. And that bigger story will be coming out," he added.

    Pelosi says members who receive classified intelligence briefings are powerless to act on them -- or even discuss them with staff.

    As a consequence, some members simply skip the meetings, so they aren't "hamstrung" by confidentiality requirements.



    By Glenn Thrush 02:54 PM

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    http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/04/goss_obama_decision_crossed_a.asp

    Goss: Obama Decision "Crossed a Red Line"
    Porter Goss, former CIA Director and past chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, blasted the Obama administration for releasing Justice Department memos on harsh interrogation techniques. “For the first time in my experience we’ve crossed the red line of properly protecting our national security in order to gain partisan political advantage,” Goss said in an interview.

    Goss, a former CIA operative, has made few public comments since leaving his post as DCI in September 2006. In December 2007, he told a Washington Post reporter that members of Congress had been fully briefed on the CIA’s special interrogation program. “Among those being briefed, there was a pretty full understanding of what the CIA was doing,” Goss told the Post. “And the reaction in the room was not just approval, but encouragement.”

    In a letter to his intelligence community colleagues last Thursday, Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair described those briefings. “From 2002 through 2006 when the use of these techniques ended, the leadership of the CIA repeatedly reported their activities both to Executive Branch policymakers and to members of Congress, and received permission to continue to use the techniques.”

    That passage from Blair’s letter – along with another confirming that the interrogations produced “high-value information” that provided a “deeper understanding of the al Qaeda organization attacking this country” – was dropped when language from the letter was released publicly. A spokesman for Blair attributed to the omission to normal editing procedures.

    In an interview this morning, senior Bush administration official accused the DNI of “politicizing intelligence” by attempting to hide his judgment that the program had produced valuable results. This official also accused the Obama administration of double standards, citing its professed belief in transparency and its unwillingness – at least so far – to declassify memos that demonstrate the value of the interrogation techniques Obama has banned.

    Other Republicans have pointed out that with the exception of Blair, the Obama administration has defended the policies using political figures – like Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod – rather than top national security advisers.

    “You can imagine what it would have looked like, if on a sensitive intelligence matter involving the CIA and this controversy, if we sent Karl Rove out to do this briefing. And that’s in effect what’s happened here,” says a high-ranking official from the Bush White House. “And I assume that’s because they saw it primarily as a political issue – because it’s being debated inside as a political issue –because it’s about appeasing the left, whose support they sought during the campaign. And Axelrod is more of an expert on that crowd that anybody else. It also says to me he was in all the meetings where they were debating this question – whether or not Obama had better go forward with some kind of investigation.”

    The official was referring to an article by Politico’s Mike Allen, in which Axelrod characterized Obama’s move as “a weighty decision.” Axelrod added: “He thought very long and hard about it, consulted widely. … He’s been thinking about this for four weeks, really.”

    Allen later reported that Axelrod made the comments during an interview he and others at Politico conducted for another article. Axelrod, Allen wrote, gave he and his colleagues a “preview of the decision on the memos.”


    Posted by Stephen F. Hayes on April 23, 2009 01:53 PM




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  2. XShooter

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    If she was water boarded, at least we'd hear the truth!
     

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    Just saw her on Fox News flubbing and sputtering through a denial, saying she was briefed but didn't know what she was told. "Er, umm, ahhh....I...uh..wasn't...er... ahhh..." We here in California are SO PROUD (sarcasm on). TJ
     
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    Maybe the would wash away the ugly, or at least wash away the stupid.


    She "was briefed but didn;t know what she was told"?! So she's on Fox News admitting that she's a stupid dumba**?!:eek: Finally, a politician that tells the truth:eek::eek:

    NOTE, I guess you can tell that i have absolutely no use for Blinky, or Nevada Harry, or Barry Hussein, or Sneaky Joe, or Eric ButtHolder, or...well ,you get the idea.
     
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    You're not alone, bcj, you are not alone. TJ
     
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    Nancy Pelosi...in a wet shirt. How could you even think about putting the interrogators thru that kind of Horror??!!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

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    Thanks glocknut for burning that image of pelosi in a wet shirt to all of us here at the TFF. Perhaps they should investigate you for torture..................LOL
     
  8. artabr

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    Yeah that!! :rolleyes: :D

    I was calling her stretch before this. Just think of what water would do to that old hide. :rolleyes: :eek: :D


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    Yeah and they have the recipients of that waterboarding on a table that has the feet up and the head down sooo...they're probably pointing towards her shoulders...or God Forbid...the collar on her shirt is a loose fit!!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek: Wouldn't those make some weird earrings?!!! :D:D:D:D

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    Might look like a couple of snake charmers snakes.... :D
    Either that or two snakes that don't realize they're supposed to be fighting a ferret instead of each other? :D:D:D:D

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  11. ponycar17

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    Pelosi stepped in herself? Come on Art. How is that possible? :D
     
  12. artabr

    artabr New Member

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    Opp's. I forgot about that thread. :eek: :D :D



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    Nancy Pelosi is some one's hero and that is the really scary part!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    dunk,drown,hang them by the balls,,,who cares dont stop till the terrorist want to kill there own familys:mad::mad: as long as the USA is safe i dont care how they get there info!!!!:mad::mad:
     
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    It dosn't matter if or what she stepped in, MSM will photoshop it to make it look like field of daises. Can always hope.