Ive called 5 different lgs and 3 out of the 5 were sold out of 5.56/223 but said they get it in pretty regularly now a days but couldn't give me a price...hummm. One other store I frequent has it for 17.95/20 (UMC) and says thats a great price (this is the store that wants 2k for a M&P15) and one other store about an hour away has Federal for 8.95/20 rounds. I think I found a new favorite gun shop, yeah its an hour away but at half the cost of just about everything it's well worth the trip!
I think some gun shops are full of sh*t!
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Eh. Maybe, but maybe not. Sometimes they don't get the invoice until they get the shipment. So they can't set the price until they find out what they have to pay for it. (We have some stuff that we order here that works that way.)
$18/20 rounds isn't a bad price if all you have in stock are some special varmint rounds. But UMC? Yeah, that's pricey.
$9/20 rounds for Federal isn't too far up from what it was last fall. I think I was paying $7/box at Walmart while I was collecting brass.
$18/20 rounds isn't a bad price if all you have in stock are some special varmint rounds. But UMC? Yeah, that's pricey.
$9/20 rounds for Federal isn't too far up from what it was last fall. I think I was paying $7/box at Walmart while I was collecting brass.
Ya know, I buy as much as possible from a gun shop in Tok, Alaska and this gun shop is the best. There ain't 1500 people that live in TOK during the summer; wonder how this shop stays open. Once you are a customer, he beats everybody's prices; mail order or box stores. I've bought ammo in Fairbanks that was almost 30 bucks a box, $21 at my favorite store in Tok, no joke. I'm a happy camper with this gun shop in business. I already got another order in for 20 more lbs of powder, primers, and a bunch of 308,30-30 (for the local Indians out our village that never have but a handful of shells), and other pistol ammo he has in stock that I buy just to spend money at his shop. I'm 200 miles north of this guy and soon as our road opens in April, I'm on my way for supplies and to stop in at my favorite gun shop.
I've called Sportsmans & other big gun shops in Fairbanks & Anchorage and have gotten the same attitude and run around at times too over the years. I trust Dave at Brownells and have to say they have treated me right. I bet if ya look around where you call home, you'll find a local mum & pop shop that will treat ya right too.
I've called Sportsmans & other big gun shops in Fairbanks & Anchorage and have gotten the same attitude and run around at times too over the years. I trust Dave at Brownells and have to say they have treated me right. I bet if ya look around where you call home, you'll find a local mum & pop shop that will treat ya right too.
Well my "new favorite gun shop" was worth the drive. I was about 2 hours too late for Federal 5.56 rounds but grabbed some cheap ars Wolfe 5.56 for 8 bucks 20 round box, BUT he had a case of SPP! Best of all it was only 29.00 per thousand! Going back Tuesday for another 5!
My favorite gun shop is the Internet. I use all the sites, whomever has the best pricing. That is because all the local stores are order warehouses. They have no stock of anything I want.You'd think in a tri-city area in CA, whose combined population is nearly 300,000 people, there would be at least one good gun store, but unfortunately no. There area only a couple and they stock nothing. I have to go 70 miles to find a store with a good collection of new and used guns and then pay high prices. I can not buy guns from out of state on the internet (CA laws!).
But we may be getting a DICK's. I have never been in one of their stores but several who come here claim they have good pricing. We'll see.
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But we may be getting a DICK's. I have never been in one of their stores but several who come here claim they have good pricing. We'll see.
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I'm with you LD. I don't have a good gun shop close by. The local pawn shop and Walmart have reloading supplies but ordering on-line I can get it for almost half their price.
We have a Dicks and a Gander right next to each other. Dicks only sells rifles and the ammo for it, no reloading supplies at all. Gander on the other hand sells rifles, hand guns, takes in trades etc. They also sell ammo for everything and reloading supplies.
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The last two shipments of 5.56/.223 was: UMC 55 gr. .223--$8/20 and USA 5.56 mm 55 gr. $12.15/20. Both came in this week and lasted about an hour.
Unless the government passes federal gun control measures, the hoarding of everything gun related will reach saturation and things will return to normal by maybe mid-year. Total return to normal last time didn't occur in some cases until the end of the year.
But here in California the danger of more controls is very possible. They are even talking about background checks for ammo purchases. You just know they will charge for the paperwork and the fee will be hefty with respect to the cost of a box of ammo.
I can't wait for the next big earthquake in CA where San Francisco, Oakland, and Sacramento fall into the ocean.
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But here in California the danger of more controls is very possible. They are even talking about background checks for ammo purchases. You just know they will charge for the paperwork and the fee will be hefty with respect to the cost of a box of ammo.
I can't wait for the next big earthquake in CA where San Francisco, Oakland, and Sacramento fall into the ocean.
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i read in the paper today that some of the senate stuff ( black gun ban, and mag ban, and uni background check ) may be in late april.
thus.. nothing will stabilize before then.
if the vote goes pro gun.. it will stabilize pretty quick.. say 2 months. if it goes anti gun.. It will only get worse....
ditto on waiting for that quake. dc in a fault zone? just curious?
thus.. nothing will stabilize before then.
if the vote goes pro gun.. it will stabilize pretty quick.. say 2 months. if it goes anti gun.. It will only get worse....
ditto on waiting for that quake. dc in a fault zone? just curious?
I'm not holding my breathe but the journalist on FOX NEWS think the Senate or the House don't have enough votes to pass any gun controls. They might get a law that all gun buyers must go through a background check but that is not a biggie for me as we already have that law in CA.
In CA the legislature says 60% of the Californians favor assault weapons ban and ammo background checks. I'm not sure I believe that but I'm worried none the less. It might be that they will make us register AW's and not be able to pass them on to our heirs. Enforcement may be hard if it comes to that. The hottest selling guns at the gun show for the last 10 years are so called AW with al the CA legal (under current law) stuff on them. There has to be tons of them in the hands of the masses, most of whom have little or no respect for CA government.
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In CA the legislature says 60% of the Californians favor assault weapons ban and ammo background checks. I'm not sure I believe that but I'm worried none the less. It might be that they will make us register AW's and not be able to pass them on to our heirs. Enforcement may be hard if it comes to that. The hottest selling guns at the gun show for the last 10 years are so called AW with al the CA legal (under current law) stuff on them. There has to be tons of them in the hands of the masses, most of whom have little or no respect for CA government.
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a uni check will kill gun show sales around here. and could make cheap guns unafordable.
take the cheap shotgun fare I collect. bolt guns and single shots. i don't pay more than 50$ for them.. and I never have problem finding them.
add a nics call in fee AND a dealer fee.. which I suspect will be like a transfer fee, and that 50$ shotgun could be 85+$ oh.. plus tax.. no longer a deal... and thus I wouldn't buy it.
take the cheap shotgun fare I collect. bolt guns and single shots. i don't pay more than 50$ for them.. and I never have problem finding them.
add a nics call in fee AND a dealer fee.. which I suspect will be like a transfer fee, and that 50$ shotgun could be 85+$ oh.. plus tax.. no longer a deal... and thus I wouldn't buy it.
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CA has gun show registration/transfer fees on all guns sold there. It has not impacted the sale of normally priced used guns. But I do not see any guns for much under $100 and junk guns are non-existent at CA gun shows. The total of the fees is close to $35 here in CA. I don't like it but it keeps the gang bangers and criminals away from the gun shows.
Buy guns at gun shows in CA is exactly like buying the same gun in a gun store. There are specialist at the shows who have FFL's and do the paperwork. You then have to go to them to pick up the gun. Hopefully they are local. In my case I have to go into LA for the big gunshots. The FFL guys are all down there some 50 to 100 miles away from my home. Our local gun show is almost a joke as it is so small.
To your point, the CA Handgun List (handguns approved for sale in CA) pretty much killed the used handgun market. Dealers have to make sure any used gun is on the list or over 50 years old and you have to pay the registration fees. The list is supported by manufacturers who only put current guns on the list that sell well and they fall off the list after about 5 years. The fees for the manufacturer are about $2000 per gun (same model, different color is a different gun to them) and includes a couple of guns that are safety tested to near destruction. The option for a dealer is to take the non-listed handgun in on consignment so the deal is a "private sale" in which the gun does not have to be on the list. I haven't bought a used handgun in a little while so I think these are still the rules (??).
CA sucks on several fronts.
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CA has gun show registration/transfer fees on all guns sold there. It has not impacted the sale of normally priced used guns. But I do not see any guns for much under $100 and junk guns are non-existent at CA gun shows. The total of the fees is close to $35 here in CA. I don't like it but it keeps the gang bangers and criminals away from the gun shows.
Buy guns at gun shows in CA is exactly like buying the same gun in a gun store. There are specialist at the shows who have FFL's and do the paperwork. You then have to go to them to pick up the gun. Hopefully they are local. In my case I have to go into LA for the big gunshots. The FFL guys are all down there some 50 to 100 miles away from my home. Our local gun show is almost a joke as it is so small.
To your point, the CA Handgun List (handguns approved for sale in CA) pretty much killed the used handgun market. Dealers have to make sure any used gun is on the list or over 50 years old and you have to pay the registration fees. The list is supported by manufacturers who only put current guns on the list that sell well and they fall off the list after about 5 years. The fees for the manufacturer are about $2000 per gun (same model, different color is a different gun to them) and includes a couple of guns that are safety tested to near destruction. The option for a dealer is to take the non-listed handgun in on consignment so the deal is a "private sale" in which the gun does not have to be on the list. I haven't bought a used handgun in a little while so I think these are still the rules (??).
CA sucks on several fronts.
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I don't think gun control/back ground checks will affect much out in rural areas; it will with new firearms in urban areas though. People in rural areas trade guns, sell guns, barter guns; always have even with Canadian relatives & friends.
Back Summer 2009, after shelves filled back (and it will happen again) I stopped at Sportsmans and spent almost 4 thousand on primers, powder, brass, bullets; they gave me 7-15% off plus sales prices on some items. It got me started on building up my supplies and I have some peace of mind now. In Alaska, it's difficult to ship some things out in the bush on small 3 passenger planes; you have to sneak everything and you can only sneak so much due to weight.
Come nx summer, reloaders that haven't got all they'll ever need, get the supply built on up. Just buy 2-4 lb of all the different powders you hear about. You'll find yourself needing more a large selection of various powders than all of one kind. Ya know after "O's" first election, the empty shelves just prior & after, I said never again and I'm sure glad that I did. I've continued buying but I'm now close to where I want to be so my grandkids will have all the ammo they ever need when the caribou show up. Honestly, I feel so much better now than I did 4-5 years back. I'm sure I'm not the only one either.
Back Summer 2009, after shelves filled back (and it will happen again) I stopped at Sportsmans and spent almost 4 thousand on primers, powder, brass, bullets; they gave me 7-15% off plus sales prices on some items. It got me started on building up my supplies and I have some peace of mind now. In Alaska, it's difficult to ship some things out in the bush on small 3 passenger planes; you have to sneak everything and you can only sneak so much due to weight.
Come nx summer, reloaders that haven't got all they'll ever need, get the supply built on up. Just buy 2-4 lb of all the different powders you hear about. You'll find yourself needing more a large selection of various powders than all of one kind. Ya know after "O's" first election, the empty shelves just prior & after, I said never again and I'm sure glad that I did. I've continued buying but I'm now close to where I want to be so my grandkids will have all the ammo they ever need when the caribou show up. Honestly, I feel so much better now than I did 4-5 years back. I'm sure I'm not the only one either.
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man that sucks.
around here.. gun shows sell more used guns than new.. by a huge margin.
that would shoot us inthe foot.
around here.. gun shows sell more used guns than new.. by a huge margin.
that would shoot us inthe foot.
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