Bob In St Louis
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OK - I am a bit short in the gray matter on American made pistols. Who can tell me about the Warner Infallible semi-auto pistol, made for only a couple of years around 1917 to 1919 I believe, in Connecticut or Massachusetts (you know - where Tye says them Huns come from). Supposedly only about 7,000 were made, and they are big, bulky and ugly. Guess that is why I am interested - I like them big, bulky and ugly pistols.
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LIKTOSHOOT
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Warner Arms Corp., Brooklyn, NY., formed around 1912, moved to Norwich, Mass. in 1913, and in 1917 merged and became Davis-Warner Arms Corp., Assonet, Mass., out of business around 1919. Two pistols: "Infallable" .32acp and "The Infallable" also in .32acp. You can also look under "Schwarzlose".....toot-sweet.....Bobbin fer bubbles
WyomingSwede
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Bob....If you like Big-n-Ugley pistols, have you ever heard of the stallard pistol? .45 acp, made in Lima Ohio,no screws,just pinned together. Retailed for around $100. Very primitive sights...shot surprisingly well. As a last resort you could beat someone pretty well with it...very heavy..would make a great boat anchor. anyone else have one??? oh well..regards swede
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Bob In St Louis
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I have heard of the Stallards before - not a very good reputation - boat anchor is about right.
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AntiqueDr
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And dont forget the "Faultless" aka the Warner-Schwarzlose Model C.
Interestingly enough, the early pistols were NOT made in the US, but rather are simply Schwarzlose pistols made in Germany and imported into the US by Warner. After Davis acquired Warner, they had some Browning-patent pistols made in Belgium. The "Infallible" was, however, a Davis-Warner product mfg in Assonet, MA.
I've never seen one in nice enough condition to bring more than $200.
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Bob In St Louis
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The one I was looking at was in the 7,000 serial number range, so it was toward the end of their production. It was in excellent condition - I stopped bidding at $171.00, saw that it closed at $191.00.
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gun runner john
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I recently picked up a Warner Infallible on Auction Arms, perhaps the one you were bidding on.
BTW, I'm looking for field stripping info for the beast, I don't want to start pounding out pins before I know more about the gun!
TallTLynn
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Welcome to the boards gun runner john. I believe Bob might be out of the house at the moment - but please check back frequently as if he doesn't get back to this soon one of the other knowledgeable people here will.
I do hope you enjoy yourself here.
gun runner john
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Thanks for the welcome, now if I could just figure out how to get this damned Infallible apart...
TallTLynn
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gun runner john - sometimes it just takes time to get an answer to come back - you just happened to show up on a Saturday afternoon and most of those who have expertise in this field are out right now.
They will return - in fact you might consider making a brand new post asking for help - that way when they enter they'll see it right away.
You should of seen me trying to figure out how to get my Beretta to let go of the clip - it was definitely an interesting online talk to get it done.
But I did learn a lot!
Bob In St Louis
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Ah - I bet you did outbid me on that! Anyway, I was interested in the pistol due to it's uniqueness and different appearance. Frankly, I don't have any info on take down, etc. Maybe when Antique Dealer gets in he will have something.
Support the Dead Party, vote Harry S. Truman for Missouri Senate in 2002!
kdubaz
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(7/7/01 8:33:28 pm)
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Howdy, GRJ -
Hope you will stay to join in the various forums here on the board with comment, wisdom or just plain smartass remarks, when appropiate!
Keep below the ridgeline!
gun runner john
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(7/8/01 1:26:30 pm)
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kdubaz, I'll probably be around awhile, I'm into collection early 1900's semi-autos, so this looked like a good place to be.
Bob in St. Louis, you wanted the Infallible for the same reason I did, I needed a really klunky and ugly pistol to provide a contrast to the good looking stuff I have.
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OK - I am a bit short in the gray matter on American made pistols. Who can tell me about the Warner Infallible semi-auto pistol, made for only a couple of years around 1917 to 1919 I believe, in Connecticut or Massachusetts (you know - where Tye says them Huns come from). Supposedly only about 7,000 were made, and they are big, bulky and ugly. Guess that is why I am interested - I like them big, bulky and ugly pistols.
Support the Dead Party, vote Harry S. Truman for Missouri Senate in 2002!
LIKTOSHOOT
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(5/24/01 9:30:43 pm)
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Warner Arms Corp., Brooklyn, NY., formed around 1912, moved to Norwich, Mass. in 1913, and in 1917 merged and became Davis-Warner Arms Corp., Assonet, Mass., out of business around 1919. Two pistols: "Infallable" .32acp and "The Infallable" also in .32acp. You can also look under "Schwarzlose".....toot-sweet.....Bobbin fer bubbles
WyomingSwede
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(5/24/01 11:01:37 pm)
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Bob....If you like Big-n-Ugley pistols, have you ever heard of the stallard pistol? .45 acp, made in Lima Ohio,no screws,just pinned together. Retailed for around $100. Very primitive sights...shot surprisingly well. As a last resort you could beat someone pretty well with it...very heavy..would make a great boat anchor. anyone else have one??? oh well..regards swede
Wyoming Swede
Bob In St Louis
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I have heard of the Stallards before - not a very good reputation - boat anchor is about right.
Support the Dead Party, vote Harry S. Truman for Missouri Senate in 2002!
AntiqueDr
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(5/26/01 9:14:08 am)
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And dont forget the "Faultless" aka the Warner-Schwarzlose Model C.
Interestingly enough, the early pistols were NOT made in the US, but rather are simply Schwarzlose pistols made in Germany and imported into the US by Warner. After Davis acquired Warner, they had some Browning-patent pistols made in Belgium. The "Infallible" was, however, a Davis-Warner product mfg in Assonet, MA.
I've never seen one in nice enough condition to bring more than $200.
Purveyor of Fine Firearms to the Enlightened Few
www.apaxenterprises.com
Bob In St Louis
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(5/26/01 8:36:55 pm)
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The one I was looking at was in the 7,000 serial number range, so it was toward the end of their production. It was in excellent condition - I stopped bidding at $171.00, saw that it closed at $191.00.
Support the Dead Party, vote Harry S. Truman for Missouri Senate in 2002!
gun runner john
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(7/7/01 4:16:52 pm)
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I recently picked up a Warner Infallible on Auction Arms, perhaps the one you were bidding on.
BTW, I'm looking for field stripping info for the beast, I don't want to start pounding out pins before I know more about the gun!
TallTLynn
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(7/7/01 4:20:24 pm)
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Welcome to the boards gun runner john. I believe Bob might be out of the house at the moment - but please check back frequently as if he doesn't get back to this soon one of the other knowledgeable people here will.
I do hope you enjoy yourself here.
gun runner john
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(7/7/01 6:50:35 pm)
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Thanks for the welcome, now if I could just figure out how to get this damned Infallible apart...
TallTLynn
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(7/7/01 6:55:10 pm)
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gun runner john - sometimes it just takes time to get an answer to come back - you just happened to show up on a Saturday afternoon and most of those who have expertise in this field are out right now.
They will return - in fact you might consider making a brand new post asking for help - that way when they enter they'll see it right away.
You should of seen me trying to figure out how to get my Beretta to let go of the clip - it was definitely an interesting online talk to get it done.
But I did learn a lot!
Bob In St Louis
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Posts: 683
(7/7/01 8:12:53 pm)
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Ah - I bet you did outbid me on that! Anyway, I was interested in the pistol due to it's uniqueness and different appearance. Frankly, I don't have any info on take down, etc. Maybe when Antique Dealer gets in he will have something.
Support the Dead Party, vote Harry S. Truman for Missouri Senate in 2002!
kdubaz
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(7/7/01 8:33:28 pm)
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Howdy, GRJ -
Hope you will stay to join in the various forums here on the board with comment, wisdom or just plain smartass remarks, when appropiate!
Keep below the ridgeline!
gun runner john
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(7/8/01 1:26:30 pm)
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kdubaz, I'll probably be around awhile, I'm into collection early 1900's semi-autos, so this looked like a good place to be.
Bob in St. Louis, you wanted the Infallible for the same reason I did, I needed a really klunky and ugly pistol to provide a contrast to the good looking stuff I have.