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Looking for my first AR-15 and have pretty much decided on a Smith and Wesson M&P Sport II and have seen lots of sites and stores selling for over $900. I won't mention the online store, but I did find it for $787 in stock. Seems like a good price given today's skyrocketing prices.

1. What do you think about the M&P for a first AR-15? Seems to get really good reviews, though I've never spoken personally to anyone who has one. Online reviews are generally very positive for a rifle in this price range.

2. Do you think $787 is a fair price today? I've considered a Colt M4 6920 but it's just a little too expensive for my budget. Cost is one of the primary factors in choosing the M&P.

Thanks in advance for your replies!
 

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Nothing wrong with the Smith ARs. Given the present situation the price isn’t outlandish IMHO. You could wait and maybe save $200 down the road if prices go back to what they were a couple years back. On the other hand prices may go higher, my crystal ball has gotten pretty foggy these days.
 

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I own about a dozen AR's with none of them being a S&W, but there is nothing wrong with them, that I know of. I just went over to the S&W website to look at them and can find no fault with what I read. I did notice that they have the MSRP at $752 so the price you quoted is not too far out of line. If it is a price you can live with and you want it, go for it!
 

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Given todays prices, that is not too bad. I would also suggest you give Ruger AR5.56 a look. A couple Buddies (former Ranger Weapons specialists) that now work at gun shops, recommended the Ruger's to me. Saying "Ruger does most of the investment castings for just about all the major brands out there, and they have one of the best BCG (bolt carrier groups) in that price range." Their favorite brand is Rock River Arms. My Ruger is the one in the middle.
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It stacks up pretty well in the reviews. Middle of the pack rifle at a budget price. Looks like they keep the forward assist and dust cover. Mil spec trigger & partially chrome lined bolt carrier pieces. I would get it. Run it til parts start to wear, then do your upgrades.
 

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I bought a Ruger AR-15 a few years ago for $490 new in the box. I am not an AR guy but the price was right so I bought it. I am by far no expert on AR's but the only issue I have is the trigger is stiff. I have been told it is typical mil-spec. I have never shot a high-end AR so I don't know if they are worth the extra cost. I put a good scope on it and plan on getting a better trigger.

The list on the Ruger now is $799. I would bet the S&W is just as good as the Ruger and the only issue you will have is the mil-spec trigger.
 

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Looking for my first AR-15 and have pretty much decided on a Smith and Wesson M&P Sport II and have seen lots of sites and stores selling for over $900. I won't mention the online store, but I did find it for $787 in stock. Seems like a good price given today's skyrocketing prices.

1. What do you think about the M&P for a first AR-15? Seems to get really good reviews, though I've never spoken personally to anyone who has one. Online reviews are generally very positive for a rifle in this price range.

2. Do you think $787 is a fair price today? I've considered a Colt M4 6920 but it's just a little too expensive for my budget. Cost is one of the primary factors in choosing the M&P.

Thanks in advance for your replies!
The price seems in line with today's situation and the M&P is a good as choice as any....but bear in mind the Biden Administration and Democrats will start pushing their precious "assault weapons ban" sooner rather than later and prices will really skyrocket, best to move now on that M&P if that's what you want.
 

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You are on the right track, and it is good to seek advice.

My only advice to you Sir, is to not buy a flat top with no sights. (Obviously) You will be dependent on Optics alone at that point. Notice my Ruger has a front sight, and a fold down rear sight. (Perfectly co-registers with the Vortex red/green dot) You want to be able if/when things go bad, to be able to ditch the Optics if something goes wrong, (batteries, etc.) and still be able to function/use your weapon.

My 2 cents.
 

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From the pictures I saw on the S&W site, they do have a "pop-up" rear sight on them and a permanent A2 type front sight. Buy one of those aftermarket carry handles and slap it on the rail and you have useable rear sights on it.
 

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Carried a S&W AR for several years at work. It went bang when you pulled the trigger. That's the nicest thing I can say about it. I'm not a fan at all. Least accurate AR I have ever had. Tried different ammo to no avail. My AR gunsmith went through it and the best he could come up with was the barrel was junk.
I had no choice as it was what we were issued. Hopefully S&W have begun to do a better job.
 

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Carried a S&W AR for several years at work. It went bang when you pulled the trigger. That's the nicest thing I can say about it. I'm not a fan at all. Least accurate AR I have ever had. Tried different ammo to no avail. My AR gunsmith went through it and the best he could come up with was the barrel was junk.
I had no choice as it was what we were issued. Hopefully S&W have begun to do a better job.
Carried a S&W AR for several years at work. It went bang when you pulled the trigger. That's the nicest thing I can say about it. I'm not a fan at all. Least accurate AR I have ever had. Tried different ammo to no avail. My AR gunsmith went through it and the best he could come up with was the barrel was junk.
I had no choice as it was what we were issued. Hopefully S&W have begun to do a better job.
Barrel is 4140 and not chrome lined.
 

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I'm not an AR fan at all but recently picked up the same model you are looking at. Got mine with a red dot and 200 rounds for a little less than what you're looking at. But I also got mine at a local shop (kinda - had to drive about an hour). It's not top of the line by any means but if you cycle lots of rounds and love the thing, you can always make mods or upgrade down the road. I'd call any tangible asset for "cash" a good trade
 

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My Ruger is much more accurate than I was expecting. My son was hitting the target at 200 yards at the TFF BBQ 2 years ago. I can't see the trigger getting any better as I have over 500 rounds down range with mine and the trigger is still junk.
 
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Reliabilty is my no 1 concern,everything else secondary....I'll take a 100% reliable 3moa rifle versus a 90% 1moa rifle.
As far as triggers-learn your reset-check out Milspec Mojo on utube.
 

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My Ruger is much more accurate than I was expecting. My son was hitting the target at 200 yards at the TFF BBQ 2 years ago. I can't see the trigger getting any better as I have over 500 rounds down range with mine and the trigger is still junk.
Van, if you want a better trigger, you are just gonna have to invest in a two stage or a "drop in". I have several and one brand seems to work as good as the next. The one brand that I have the most of is Rise Armament (RA-140 SST). I will tell you some to stay away from - Hammerhead or any no-name from eBay.
 

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We have the S&W and the Ruger. Both are good guns and accurate. IMO the S&W is a bit better. It definitely has a better trigger. Somebody said Ruger does the investment castings for all the major brands but the receivers are forged T6 Aluminum and there's only a few forges making them. Ruger doesn't forge anything. The firing pin on the Ruger isn't shrouded, the S&W is. The S&W has a 1:9 twist with a nitride treated barrel. The Ruger is 1:8 twist with a nitride treated barrel. Nitride treated barrels are better than chrome lined for accuracy. For dragging one through the jungles in Laos or Cambodia chrome lined is better. Rugers rear sight while similar to the Magpul MBUS sight on the S&W is a Ruger design with only one aperture. The S&W MBUS has two apertures. Neither one has a heat shield in the handguard. That won't make any difference unless you do a lot of mag dumps. I prefer the flip down sights and the A2 front sight that way if you run a red dot and the battery dies you can still use the irons without taking it off. If you run a scope over 3X the scope can't see the A2 sight. The both run steel cased like grease through a goose. Whichever one you get tear it down and do a thorough cleaning to get the factory preservative out of it and they both like to run wet.





 

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You may have already seen this. Pretty fair review. Used steel cased, decent and premium ammo and the last group was impressive sub moa. Looks like a decent rifle with many sold. The only thing I would consider is maybe one a little lighter in overall weight for the smaller folks at home. That's only because mine is a bit heavy. Right now we may be on the cusp of prices sharply rising as inventory shrinks even more due to pending legislation.
Smith & Wesson M&P Sport II AR-15 Review: Great Budget Rifle Or Piece Of Junk? (HD) - Bing video
 
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