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I’ve read the other post on this site about this type of handgun, but my husband’s father left him this gun: 3 inch barrel, black powder revolver (5 shooter). It’s the blue medal. We are trying to find a value. When we removed the barrel grips, the only numbers we see are I (or 1, or X), 478. So no T then a number. And there is 478 on the bottom of the trigger area and PAT. Nov 17,08 (which makes think it was made in 1908?) On the bottom of the grip. Any idea if there is any value for this gun? We definitely know not to put it into circulation.
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You have an Iver Johnson 3rd Model Safety Hammer Automatic that was manufactured after 1908.

Based upon the patents stamps, it appears the revolver is a 2nd Variation manufactured in 1928. The first letter in the serial number is most likely a J. It is chambered in .32 S&W and considered a smokeless frame and should be safe for modern smokeless ammunition after you have it checked out by a competent gunsmith.
 

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You have an Iver Johnson 3rd Model Safety Hammer Automatic that was manufactured after 1908.

Based upon the patents stamps, it appears the revolver is a 2nd Variation manufactured in 1928. The first letter in the serial number is most likely a J. It is chambered in .32 S&W and considered a smokeless frame and should be safe for modern smokeless ammunition after you have it checked out by a competent gunsmith.
Thank you so much!
 

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What Shrek said!

As for value I'd say real world would be in the $150 +/- range provided it's mechanically in good condition.
 

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Hi there! I’m trying to get a year date and whether this is a smokeless or black powder gun. It’s a 32 with 5 shots and the serial under the grip is L27823. There are no visible markings on the trigger guard and the patent info on the bottom of the butt is worn very far down.
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Hi there! I’m trying to get a year date and whether this is a smokeless or black powder gun. It’s a 32 with 5 shots and the serial under the grip is L27823. There are no visible markings on the trigger guard and the patent info on the bottom of the butt is worn very far down. View attachment 253177 View attachment 253177 View attachment 253178 View attachment 253179 View attachment 253180
You have a Iver Johnson 2nd Model 4th Variation Safety Hammerless Automatic manufactured in 1904. It is chambered in. 32 S&W and is considered a blackpowder frame and not safe for modern smokeless ammunition.
 

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You have a Iver Johnson 2nd Model 4th Variation Safety Hammerless Automatic manufactured in 1904. It is chambered in. 32 S&W and is considered a blackpowder frame and not safe for modern smokeless ammunition.

Thanks so much! I knew you experts would get everything sorted easily!
 
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