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Discussion Starter · 10 d ago

Have a barrel only marked as above, also marked on top chicopee MASS,USA PAT April 17, 94, left side hex portion 25.20 #17455 under barrel just before wood stock portion. Would like to obtain the other half or get it to someone who needs it, but either way would like to see this cool old rifle made whole again. Please advise. Thanks, Don Frace

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TRAP55

· #2 · 10 d ago

Sounds like a Stevens Model 44, or 44 1/2. Post some pics.

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sharps4590

· #3 · 10 d ago

Hex portion? I never knew Stevens...or anyone else for that matter, to make a hexagonal barrel.

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Hawg

· #4 · 10 d ago

Some people get their agonals confused.

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shootbrownelk

· #5 · 10 d ago

I'm in that boat, don't know my Hexagons from my Octagons dammit.

I'd like to see some barrel pictures too, how's the bore and any sights?

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sharps4590

· #6 · 10 d ago

Think of the "X" in "hexagonal" as relating to the "X" in "six". That leaves 8 for octagonal unless, as Hawg alluded to, you want to include pentagonal, heptagonal, nonagonal or decagonal or some other number of sides to a polygon.

Yes, as a matter of fact I am anal retentive.

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TRAP55

· #7 · 9 d ago

If you want to pick nits, most the Stevens half round barrels, are Pentagon, 5 flats and round on the bottom.

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Discussion Starter · #8 · 9 d ago

I will send pics as soon as I figure out how that is done, being a rifle freak but not much on technology.. The what I mistakenly called Hex is 8 sided what ever that is, and is the receiver portion of the barrel. It has an overall length is a hair over 30" with the barrel at 20 7/16".

Further, Thanks Joe but my ignorance warrants some ridicule, nevertheless, the bore looks great...judging from the overall condition of this portion of the rifle, this was not use or fired much. As to sights it has holes that would indicate a long scope but does have the peep sight at the tip (also probably the wrong word).

Anyway, I will send Pics, thanks to all and thanks Joe for the wisdom we all need whether we know it or not.

Best Regards, Don

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Grizzley1

· #9 · 9 d ago

The front sight sounds like a hooded globe sight and it most likely came on a Stevens 44 or 44 1/2. It's probably chambered for the .25-20 single shot and not the .25-20 WCF. The rear sight was likely a tang sight mounted on the receiver.

@sharps4590 believe it or not I have seen rifles with hex barrels, Japanese matchlocks. We have three of them in the warehouse.

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sharps4590

· #10 · 9 d ago

Grizzley1 said:
The front sight sounds like a hooded globe sight and it most likely came on a Stevens 44 or 44 1/2. It's probably chambered for the .25-20 single shot and not the .25-20 WCF. The rear sight was likely a tang sight mounted on the receiver.

@sharps4590 believe it or not I have seen rifles with hex barrels, Japanese matchlocks. We have three of them in the warehouse.

Now that you've told me that.....again......I remember it.....again....lol! MAYBE it will stick this time

Which 25-20 was my next question and I suspect what you mentioned. It will be interesting and nice to see it. Rick found some brass for his, didn't he?

And Don, I don't think you deserve any ridicule.......and I certainly wasn't being critical....as mentioned, I AM anal retentive about some things. It's one of my numerous faults.....

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Grizzley1

· #11 · 9 d ago

Yes he found brass and dies for it and I think he put a few rounds down range with it.

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TRAP55

· #12 · 9 d ago

sharps4590 said:
I AM anal retentive about some things.

Vic, I would never have guessed that!

Until Grizz mentioned it, skipped my mind that it would be a 25/20SS. Before the 25/20WCF, they were just marked 25/20.

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Grizzley1

· #13 · 9 d ago

Trap, you mentioned only the top five flats would be machined and the bottom left round. I've refreshed quite a few old barrels and all but one of them had 8 flats, the one that didn't was an antique British cap lock rifle I've seen plenty of early Winchester and Stevens barrels that still had machine marks on the bottom three flats, they didn't waste time and effort to polish out what was hidden under the wood.

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TRAP55

· #14 · 9 d ago

Have a Winchester Oct and Stevens Favorite half round barrel right here. Winchester put some effort on the bottom flat. Stevens, well, they made the bottom part round.

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Grizzley1

· #15 · 9 d ago

I have a Stevens 44 1/2 barrel sitting by the mill that is half round half octagon and it has all 8 flats. It might depend on what years and what models though on how many corners they cut, pun intended.

Some bubba tried to re line it and drilled it from both ends and the drill missed in the middle. Joe wanted me to try to salvage it but it was a lost cause.

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Discussion Starter · #16 · 9 d ago

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Regarding the sights, the holes tapped on the top of the receiver would be consistent with the front sight but also has two other holes approximately nine inches forward on the barrel? anyway here are the pics.

Thanks again, Don

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Hawg

· #17 · 9 d ago

The holes are probably for long tube scope mounts.

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Grizzley1

· #18 · 9 d ago

Yep it's either a 44 or 44 1/2 barrel. I'm having a brain fart and can't remember the proper name for the front sight is, I should, I've installed a few of them. It's been drilled and tapped for a scope. Someone with a complete Stevens rifle with a rust pitted bore might want it or you might look for one with a bad barrel to put this barrel on.. and my brain finally kicked in, it's a Beech front sight. Flip it down for a normal blade sight or up for a post in a ring for use with a peep or tang sight.

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sharps4590

· #19 · 9 d ago

Ah-Ha!!! My turn!! It's a Beech or Beach front sight....lol I can't remember which way it's spelled.

Ah..evidently it is "Beech."

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TRAP55

· #20 · 9 d ago

The sight is a Lyman #5 Folding front sight. The difference between the two, the Lyman has screws at the pivot points, the Beach folding sight has pins, and a replaceable post. Beach's patent ran out in 1890, and Lyman scooped it up. Current manufactures have misnamed it Beech.
That barrel was never dovetailed for a rear sight. Stevens sight combinations ran from A to H, that one was an "E" with a Lyman #5 Folding, and the rear sight was a Lyman #1 Tang sight. When the Beach sight was used, it was a #205. At one time it had an external turret scope on it, but I've always seen both the mounting block holes drilled on the top flat, not one on the round.
Don, any idea how barrel and receiver parted ways?

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