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These came from Mike (Goofy), and hes had absolutely nothing to do with the situation. Hes forwarded me the messages as he hasnt a clue what to do with them. They appear to be emails from Jack to Sam, and vice versa. I cant figure out why Jacks sending them to Mike and makes me wonder who else hes sending them to and why.. Maybe a hacker technique. Attaching trojans or something.. My browser would have blocked them if thats the case though.. ?:confused:

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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: John T <[email protected]>
To: Sam Headrick <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: request



just console yourself with what kershaw gave you


i hope it was a lot , buy a car fix up the house , then a few years from now take a look at what it bought and say thanks jack your honour , your friendship, your reputation , was all worth it


they offered me $50k


how much they offer you sam to sell me out and cover their hide?/


$10 grand ? $20,000 ??


hope it was worth it
--- On Wed, 14/11/12, Sam Headrick <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Sam Headrick <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: request
To: "John T" <[email protected]>
Received: Wednesday, 14 November, 2012, 12:20 AM


Jack, I'll honor your request and remove you from the Mod list. I really don't want to but if it's your wish, I'll comply.
I've always considered you a friend and you are welcome in my house anytime. Remove your data from TFF if you want.
Thomas W seems like a reasonable guy and has offered to send you the knives if you still want them. Let me know what kind, model # and how many. This should have never taken place at TFF and I'm disappointed that it did. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things which you well know. You have caused a little damage to the reputation of TFF that I have worked for almost 12 years to build.
I will say we have enjoyed having you at TFF as you were great help and knowledgable in a lot of things. You will be missed.

Sam


From: John T <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:29 AM
Subject: request

would you please remove me from the forum or allow me to remove all my infomation from the forum
or will this be like the minus account , deciding my data is worth more to you than my right to decide so i am blocked so i cant remove it , like it seems folk in america are rather good at , denying everyone else a fair go while insisting on one for their own ...
i just want Gone Sam , thats all no arguments no accusations i just want gone all gone
please tell me its ok either way
my only option is then legal action , i cant afford it Sam
but i'll take it if thats the only option
i do not wish to be associated with the forums , i dont want anything to do with your nation nothing
no-one will support my side , no-one will allow me a fair say , i just gotta deal with what i got ,
arse ****ed ... big time , but hey no one meant for it to be bad eh ??
it just was .. not your hassle you covered your but , hid the truth the big company won its all good .. for the americans
now they can say what they like and spin it so its now me and they are doing wonderful at it , i've never been so bloody helpless eh
thank you
 

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and these from Mike to Jack, and more of the same...
 

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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: John T <[email protected]>
To: "goofy @ TheFirearmsForum.Com" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Jack what the hell happened?



From: John T <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:29 AM
Subject: request

would you please remove me from the forum or allow me to remove all my infomation from the forum
or will this be like the minus account , deciding my data is worth more to you than my right to decide so i am blocked so i cant remove it , like it seems folk in america are rather good at , denying everyone else a fair go while insisting on one for their own ...
i just want Gone Sam , thats all no arguments no accusations i just want gone all gone
please tell me its ok either way
my only option is then legal action , i cant afford it Sam
but i'll take it if thats the only option
i do not wish to be associated with the forums , i dont want anything to do with your nation nothing
no-one will support my side , no-one will allow me a fair say , i just gotta deal with what i got ,
arse ****ed ... big time , but hey no one meant for it to be bad eh ??
it just was .. not your hassle you covered your but , hid the truth the big company won its all good .. for the americans
now they can say what they like and spin it so its now me and they are doing wonderful at it , i've never been so bloody helpless eh
thank you


Re: requestWednesday, 14 November, 2012 12:20 AM
From:This sender is DomainKeys verified"Sam Headrick" <[email protected]>Add sender to ContactsTo:"John T" <[email protected]>Jack, I'll honor your request and remove you from the Mod list. I really don't want to but if it's your wish, I'll comply.
I've always considered you a friend and you are welcome in my house anytime. Remove your data from TFF if you want.
Thomas W seems like a reasonable guy and has offered to send you the knives if you still want them. Let me know what kind, model # and how many. This should have never taken place at TFF and I'm disappointed that it did. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things which you well know. You have caused a little damage to the reputation of TFF that I have worked for almost 12 years to build.
I will say we have enjoyed having you at TFF as you were great help and knowledgable in a lot of things. You will be missed.

Sam




SAM and everyone


i've sent this to someone else to post


youb have decided thomas is a good guy , all after the fact you know he's been killing my suppliers , that the kershaw media team are working to say i did the anti troops statements and ridiculed disabled veterans


you say he's nice guy and wants me to have the knives


how much did he offer you SAM ??


they offered me $50 K first think when i spoke to this mutts boss


free knioves as they have already said they have their product with the SAS


they dont Sam , its a lie and your helping them lie


they need to force me into giving in to make it true so the army here dont sue and then the world will condemn them


so you help them pressure me


ignore all my please as he's a nice guy


how much sam ?


hiow much did he say ??


you know he's killed my business here and my in box is full of hate mail


but you say he's ok


how much to sell me and the rest of the forum out sam ??


leave me alone


americans will always sell out aussies


its just they way of things eh??
take care everyone


i cant come back untill i clear my name and that means a long time


but do know the SASR have decided to monitor anyone threatening me to take these knoves


i do have friends and as soon as they explain things to the US military i hope to get kershaw busted , but i wont have any buisness byb then but at least i'll have kept my word


you folks


will just accept the sales guys money and help them screw me some more


keep your nice guy folks


leave me alone


thank you




--- On Tue, 13/11/12, goofy @ TheFirearmsForum.Com <[email protected]> wrote:


From: goofy @ TheFirearmsForum.Com <[email protected]>
Subject: Jack what the hell happened?
To: [email protected]
Received: Tuesday, 13 November, 2012, 10:55 PM


This is a message from goofy at TheFirearmsForum.Com ( http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/index.php ). The TheFirearmsForum.Com owners cannot accept any responsibility for the contents of the email.

To email goofy, you can use this online form:
http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/sendmessage.php?do=mailmember&u=35204

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This is the message:

I have not been on that much then this morning I read you are leaving.
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED???????
Who said what????
I talked with Josh last night and he was saying that things here have gotten out of hand allot of people have gotten axed.
Why are you backing out? I would not expect that you would stand down.
Was it talk here or some ware else?
You have my E-Mail if not here it is.
[email protected]
Shot me a e-mail and talk.
Mike
 

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I dont know what to make of it. But I dont like it at all..
 

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Seems to me that Jack doesnt mind slandering whoever stands in his way. I didnt think he was like that. Wow, is he ever out there.
 

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I didnt either. im just trying to understand it.
 

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And another from goofy..

This came after I went to bed.
I also have a gun I restored to give to TFF for a X-Mas give away should I contact Sam? There will be conditions for this gun.
Mike


----- Forwarded Message -----
From: John T <[email protected]>
To: "goofy @ TheFirearmsForum.Com" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: You could be right



No that incident was a Australian pretending to be us, we're looking now to see if we where hacked or if it was a spoofed post , the web page he sent you too was taken down by that sites administrators as it was all just anti US drivel, i guess some people don't like Americans! but you can contact the owners yourself and they'll verify it all to you
Regards
The Kershaw Team


so now they are verifying i;m evil hate americans etc etc etc


hope they got a good ammount


hate to think i was sold out for a couple blades , they offered herrons here $5000 just to get me to walk away


wonder how much TFF got ??

--- On Wed, 14/11/12, goofy @ TheFirearmsForum.Com <[email protected]> wrote:


From: goofy @ TheFirearmsForum.Com <[email protected]>
Subject: You could be right
To: [email protected]
Received: Wednesday, 14 November, 2012, 12:05 AM


This is a message from goofy at TheFirearmsForum.Com ( http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/index.php ). The TheFirearmsForum.Com owners cannot accept any responsibility for the contents of the email.

To email goofy, you can use this online form:
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This is the message:

All the talk this morning about what happened was taken down.
E-Mail me
[email protected]
Mike
 

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And this is fresh from an hour or so ago. T2S alerted me to it and he sent me some screen shots of the conversation up until the time i signed onto the chat room as 'weaselman'

Jack is starting to really aggravate me.
 

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I'm not sure if Jack has hit a paranoid madness phase in his life or what...... just does not seem like the level headed hardnose grunt that I was used to. I'm appalled at the whole situation. Once again proving to me that FB is evil and causes too much crap.
 

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100% agreed Worm. That stuff should have never been brought here.
 

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I just noticed... the thread showing on the index page for the "Storefronts" forum is a Slickdeals thread about Kershaw knives...

Ain't that our luck sometimes?
 

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bad timing. i mentionaed that to sam last night.
 

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I just got this one:

Terry , without getting too deep , would you ask the bosses sam SM and marlin to read the emails i sent via the support email?

i've been approved to have this issue dealt through the military and the military are now passing it up to DFAT ( dept forign affairs and trade ) to send to your military and for them to grab those involved and to extradite them back here under the ANZUS treaty ( which blows the patriot act out of thee water )

in sent them the emails i have sent and received on this and shows i aint foolin

Sam did wrong , why , dont matter , we'll it does but if i hang sam , i wont be happy even though i aint happy what he did

everyone got scared or what ever or took what was offered

and **** on me greatly

when thomas posted it was me who insulted the veterans my responce that showed the truth was removed , when ikky stated that was wrong that kershaw insulted him , he was banned ..

everything anti kershaw has been removed , even tango whine about my kershaw set that i raved over was taken but my post there still

funny that , 8 months old and thomas got everything not 100% ok to kershaw removed , even a small bit where someone broke one , thats gone now too

folks are awful ticked and emailing me daily

want to start another forum etc

i've replyed we'll fix the one we have as its the best one , just got a bit off course to to some undue influence

i'm told ( un reliably as theres a couple muck rakers getting into this and i dont trust what they say ) that the forum bosses have told folks to not contact me etc

if true i'm saddened greatly , socialism at work in our forum!!!

so i dunno

just see if you can reason with them , or they'll end up in the bag with kershaw and crew and after next friday i cant stop whats to come , but before then i'll remove them from the formal doc's and say they where duped into helping kershaw

if they apologuise and give me back my name

as thats all i want from them ,

i wont be back , as frankly , i dont trust em , nor you that much terry

its bitten me that deep

i tryed to call you when i saw you where online but no answer , a couple times now

but if they give me back my name i'll call it quits with TFF

and thats where its at for now

i'll get all my suppliers back when kershaw is nailed , thats no worries

and they'll fund it all i'll wager too

i dont want a cent from the TFF folks just a apology that clears me of what thomasW stated and that was allowed to stay while all my posts defending myself are removed

but if they wont , then i hope they have nice homes terry as i'll find veterans who need nice places cheap and give em to em

and do so without a care in the world , i'm that hurt terry

i've prayed this will get fixed and i watched it get worse and worse

6 folks kicked out over this so far .. even bobitis came back when he heard and was promptly banned

i'm so saddend that i started this buy asking folks to ask kershaw just to cal me

all polite then they attacked the folks who did

all past that has been shrouded in lies and deception

all i have here is open to all terry

ask me anything , i'll tell you , i aint 100% clean in this , the emails i sent sam as i was getting emails in saying i am no longer welcome to buy offf this place and that place and the emails from disabled veterans and their families telling me what i did ( which was actually from kershaw) i've never been against disabled but using TFF they got that message out fast and clear

i want my name cleared terry , and i dont care the costs but will make a way out if they accept it

otherwise i'll own all their homes the forum and everything else they have

please dont let em think they can screw me on this as thats false thinking

i will win this terry but i ask

is having 4-5 folks i did consider friends in gaol

a real win??

i only want kershaw terry the rest can walk if they clear me

please help em see this ??

if you want to see the info io have sent them ask

cheers

oh heck

the glasses from TFF just arrived , and i've johns SAS coffee cup here i have not even wrapped yet

tell him i'll do it now

cheers
 

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So, he is going to own your houses, guys.

For DARING to remove all fighting threads from TFF, and getting Kershaw to agree to sell him anything he wants - which he refused.

Something is WAY off base with Jack; maybe too much of his home brew?

I have butted heads with Jack twice in the past.
Both times were over something he posted which I verified was not true.
The first time, he apologized and removed it.
The second time, he accused me of being anti-Oz, and wouldn't speak to me for a week.

I have NOT butted heads with him over this thing yet.
 

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His accusation that I refused his calls because he had called while I was on line is garbage; he called while we were in Clarksville - and I NEVER leave the computer on when we leave.
Sheer BS.

But he DID call again while I was typing that.
I did not pick up, nor do I ever intend to.
The guy has lost his freaking mind if he seriously thinks he is going to get all of our homes in a court case over this.
And he DOES think that.
 

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The man needs professional help.
 

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I agree he hasnt a leg to stand on legally here. His aussie laws dont apply here yet and this is an open forum. Bottom line.. once something is posted here it becomes forum property and can be done with what it wished by the forum owners. Jacks got a bad case of believing the folks that tell him what he wants to hear.

And id like to know the ones angry and wishing to start thier own forum. I think weve got some playing both sides too. 'Muck Rakers' as hes called them.. Ill be watching for them.
 

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He has stirred way too much and if anyone should be sued, its him. I hate to say anything because I do things because I want to not because I want recognition, but because he is doing this I feel led to say it. I took delivery of a pinfire revolver for Jack because he couldnt get the paperwork straight to ship it over there and then he needed some parts for a rifle and I ordered them, paid for them, shipped them to him and didnt charge him a dime. I spent two days researching a gun he was looking for, but came up empty handed. I have never done him any wrong and I am certain NOBODY here has ever done him any harm.
 

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I just sent this:

Jack;

I hate the telephone.
Maybe it is from spending so many years with one growing out of my ear, I don't know.

I did forward your E-mail on to the guys.

I have always considered you a friend, Jack, and still do.
I just don't know what the HELL happened here.
You had a fight with Kershaw over on Facebook, it seems. I did not go over there because I HATE Facebook; all I do there is play Scrabble with my daughter, and I use their log-in when replying to some on-line articles because it is faster.
But you brought that battle to TFF, which is absolutely not allowed.
Still, everyone thinks the WORLD of you, so an attempt was made by Sam to straighten it out.
He has dealt with Kershaw, knows the owner, and he contacted him to straighten it out.
He claimed he knew nothing about the fight (may or may not be true, of course), but he OFFERED TO FIX IT by shipping you as many knives of whatever model(s) you wanted. Sam thought this was your complaint, and could not understand why you refused to accept that, since that is what you said you wanted in the first place.
The battle continued on TFF, and in keeping with the rules there all such posts were removed.
You demanded repeatedly to be removed from TFF, and Sam finally agreed and removed you.
Now you plan to sue everybody over this.

Jack, I am truly sorry for all of this mess.
I still consider you my friend, regardless.

God bless you -

Terry
 
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