John Moses Browning

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  1. sharps4590

    sharps4590 Well-Known Member

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    I guess 30 or more years ago a good friend loaned a book to me on JMB. I knew a very few of his designs at the time...still don't know many....but the book was enlightening. I have tried in vain to remember the name of the book but alas, to no avail. He truly was a genius. I think if anyone doubts that just look at how many of his designs are still in either use or production.
     
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    Firpo Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    I don’t have a safe full of his designers but I have a few and love them all, 1897’s, 1911A1, Baby Browning (a slightly redesigned 1906 Vest), 1894, 1890/06 and a Browning Trombone. Can you imagine being his apprentice?
     
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  3. goofy

    goofy Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    They are great to watch.
    Thanks for posting them. (even though I was suppose to be getting 3 stocks sanded and prepped).
    Mike
     
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  4. rooter

    rooter *VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff* Supporting Member

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    Good Afternoon All...When I saw the name, John Moses Browning, the gun maker I recall
    when my wife and I toured one of the original Mormon settlements there was a gun shop
    there that belonged to the gun maker..It was Nauvoo, Illinois...Perhaps some of you have
    toured that site...very interesting..This is part of what Google had...Chief

    John Browning - Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Browning

    John Moses Browning (January 23, 1855 – November 26, 1926) was an American firearms ... As was common in the Mormon community at that time, Jonathan Browning was a polygamist, having taken three wives. He fathered 21 children and ...
    Nationality‎: ‎American
    Awards‎: ‎John Scott Medal‎ (1905); ‎Order of Lé...
    Children‎: ‎10, including Val A. Browning
    Parents‎: ‎Jonathan Browning‎ (father); Elizabeth ...
    Missing: fame ‎| ‎Must include: ‎fame
    Jonathan Browning · ‎Val A. Browning · ‎Browning Superposed · ‎9mm Browning Long
     
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    LDBennett Well-Known Member

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    It is said, according to what I have read, that JMB designed the gun in his head (totally!) before building the prototype. He worked out all the details in his head before starting the metal prototype. That is genius in spades!

    He would complete the prototype, test it, and offer it up to Winchester. They would do the patent in his name, and turn his design into a production gun with detail engineering allowing it to be commercially made. In the beginning Winchester bought the design for one sum of money. When JMB offered up the first semi-automatic shotgun he asked for royalties rather selling out right. Winchester balked on the semi-auto and JMB's demand of royalties. They split ways forever.

    I have many JMB designed rifles, both Winchester and the beautifully finished much more recent Browning/Miroku clones (1885, 1890, 1886, 1892, 1894, 1895, 1897). I also have several handguns of his design (1903, 1911, Hi Power). All modern semi-auto handguns use some part of the many JMB designs some 100 years later. Now that is gun genius!

    LDBennett
     
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    joe45c Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    th.jpg Here's a poster of most of his designs. For some reason the model 94 is not on here.
     
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    Goofy, Thanks you have brightened my day and a lot of others reminiscing on the extraordinary feats of this great individual. Most every day I have at least one of his creations in hand.
     
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    Empty_Holster Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    ONLY if it is the same as the Model 600 rifle!!! LOL
     
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    I have one thing in common with him. We were born on the same day. He was just born 95 year before me.
     
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  10. goofy

    goofy Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Yep it is the same thing. How stupid and poorly designed.
    Mike
     
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    Empty_Holster Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    I always thought so. The push-lever on the Mauser was so easy and so simple Remington had to go out of their way to make an easy task TOUGH...... thks
     
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    Goofy! What kind of analogy would you expect from a guy signed Deingy?
    Expertise/skill vs formal training
     
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  13. Recoil

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    Good read IMG_20190128_220201473.jpg
     
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    Some people can't take a joke. :D The 1887 lever action shotgun is one Browning didn't want to do but Winchester insisted on it. I have one and it works but it's clunky.
     
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    68c15 TFFWPP President Supporting Member

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    Mike, I highly agree he was a genius. I'll go another step with that. Most children have the ability to be a genius. All it takes is people around him (or her) to care enough to teach them and let them use their imagination. Children haven't had their minds polluted with negativity the way adults have.

    Do you see where I'm going with this?

    For the record I understand and happily follow your opening statements. School (formal education) helps but doesn't guarantee wisdom, knowledge or success.
     
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