A reminder of why you should know your gun, proper use of your gun, and it's limits. Warning: Content is graphic. http://www.wideopenspaces.com/graph...tm_medium=partner&utm_term=kj&utm_campaign=kj I'll take a guess that he used a black powder measure for smokeless powder. In any case, that had to hurt. Personally, I think it was a stupid move for Savage to sell a smokeless capable Muzzleloader.