Las Vegas: How could this be confused for a week?

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  1. cec2

    cec2 Well-Known Member

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    Last night on Fox News Tucker Carlson was even commenting on how very strange it is that something as crucial as the timeline of when the security guard was shot was missed for a whole week. Realistically, that just would not happen. There was some retired CIA guy on Carlson's show that seemed to just not get it and tried to deflect Carlson's point. I'm still astounded about learning the security guard was shot six minutes BEFORE the crowd was fired upon. No way could they have had that mixed up for a week! The guard lived and would have told them, never mind other hotel personnel. Did no one on the 32nd floor notice those shots (at the guard) being fired?

    I've never been one who believes conspiracy theories (well, something more went on with JFK, but that's the only one). But no way were the investigators genuinely confused about whether the guard was shot before or after the main shootings--for a whole week after the incident.

    911 calls are recorded. Surely within six minutes of the guard being shot (and the sounds of 200 rifle rounds inside the hotel) there were 911 calls. Was the entire 32nd floor empty of guests? Why no photos of the damage to the other side of the hall? Also as Twicepop has mentioned, in the photos taken inside the room, there doesn't appear to be nearly enough brass for all the rounds that were fired, only some here and there. When I shoot my 9mm handgun at a paper target there's a bigger pile of brass that what I've seen in the photos! But perhaps it's just that no photos have been released of those areas of the rooms.

    Can no one in the news media interview the hotel security guard or his family, or other hotel security personnel? Surely an ambulance was called for the security guard. Usually there would be interviews all over the place long before now.

    I just don't understand how this was missed right off the bat, nor why there still aren't more information, interviews, photos, 911 recordings, etc. being released. Police always withhold some details about crimes, but not even close to the degree here.

    If there is some big conspiracy, would the Las Vegas sheriff have even known about it right away, to give wrong info so quickly after the event? The timeline error (assuming the first version is the one in error) was announced fairly early. I'm confused about the info presented in the press conferences. I wonder what will be on tonight's news, if anything.
     
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    (either) "Are you joking?"

    (or) "I think you're sincere."

    (or) "Surely you jest!" (and don't call me Shirley)

    You seem to think there are journalists somewhere in the U.S. who might be curious. No, Virginia, there are no real journalists anymore.

    The media is so used to sitting through a "news release" that that is the only thing they know how to do these days. Wait for the Sheriff to come to the microphone, turn on your recorder, and shout stupid, irrelevant questions at him.

    That's the status of journalism in America in 2017.
     

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    The Obama admin laughed about how modern reporters were not grizzled vets but kids who know all of jack and would just swallow anything they were told.
     
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    Never trust anyone who claims to be retired CIA.

    Hmmm, almost as if the whole thing was staged.
     
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    200 rounds into the hallway? even with 40 round mags that is 5 magazine changes. That is a lot of shooting right there. Should be a number of 911 calls in the time directly after that.
     
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    must have been a whole bunch of deaf mutes on that floor and the floors below and above!
     
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    Really, really, good soundproofing for the "special activity" rooms - did Weinstien stay there a lot?
    Back to reality - I would think with .223 zipping along halways and rooms of a hotel, someone might get hit, or at least be talking on camera about how terrified they were laying on the floor in their room as bullets zipped overhead...and I agree - the security guard hailed as a hero, have we seen any interviews?
    Will anyone do an FOI for those 911 records?
     
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    OK--have to throw something in here. Where are the videos?
    If you have ever been in a hotel/casino in Vegas you know what I mean. There are at least two of those little black camera hemispheres visible wherever you are if you are in a public area.
    He was there for a couple of days---should be pics of him checking in, going to his car (several times), packing in a lot of luggage, etc. etc. etc. Pics of 200 bullets coming through a door?
     
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    Hmmmm...

    Did said “security guard” witness something he shouldn’t have? Why would his house need to be guarded, everything was over within 15 minutes of him being hit by a gunman. (Notice I dint say hit by the reported shooter) Did he stumble upon something and a “gunman” or “gunmen” try to remove a witness before they committed their false flag attack?

    The plot thickens.
     
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    I'm thinking maintenance guy might a been checking faulty/disconnected video cams.
     
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    Security guard's name was scrubbed from MGM payroll too.
     
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    Just read that all the witnesses that had cell phones and things taken for evidence got them back with everything from that weekend erased.
     
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    Of the above few statement how many can we believe? Can anyone give first knowledge of those statements? When no answers are given by those in authority then everything said by anyone can be given more credibility. With a tragedy of this size we are owed an official explanation of events. Law enforcement can say it needs to kept out of the public until this or that but if it a known fact they need to let us know. The longer the truth evades us the less likely we are going to be to believe it.
     
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    They are busy manufacturing the truth now
    Once they have it all packaged up and air tight they will tell us what the "truth" is
     
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