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So I’m trying to figure exactly what my great uncle has here. So I’ve done a little bit of research very quickly and within a couple minutes I was able to find very basic info. I get it’s a British bulldog style, possibly a webley and Scott??? The main thing that keeps throwing me off is the barrel length. Now I haven’t seen the gun yet just pictures that have been sent over to me but possibly a .38?? Also the proof marks by the barrel starting from the top down goes:
- a crown
- a capital R
- looks to be a capital A

Now I could find the proof markings for the crown and the R and it resembles one from Birmingham but the A throws me off again

Then the serial by the trigger partially stands out and I believe may be missing some numbers to start I dunno but the final three numbers is definitely “346” looks to possibly be “1346” but then again every serial number I could find was longer then four digits so I assume it has been scratched off or maybe there is only four I dunno.

If anyone can help it would definitely be much appreciated.
 

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Certainly resembles my American manufactured Forehand Wadsworth British Bulldog 38 I have ....... here is a link to one that sold recently........ see what you think
https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...r-w-ammo--high-condition.cfm?gun_id=101246732
Yes very similar I had come across these while searching just couldn’t find a barrel length to match. The one you sold had a 2 1/2” barrel on it no? The one that I have is closer to 1 1/2” this is the main part that is stumping me which is frustrating cause I think I’m getting hung up on this one issue lol
 

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BELGIAN BULLDOG STYLE POCKET REVOLVER .........Copy of bull dog
Belgian bulldog.jpg
 

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If it's Belgian it probably has an oval with the letters
E L G in it and a little star. If there is a crown on top
of the oval it's 1893 or newer. No crown--1892 or older.
Look on the rear face of the cylinder for the oval. The
crown over R is a belgian smokeless powder proof.
Probably means your gun is 1900ish or newer.
 

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So was finally able to go look at it myself and take some good better pictures.

So there is the “R with the crown” and below that is an “A with a star above it” both those are next to the barrel.
Then on the cylinder there is the (ELG in the oval with a crown above and the star below the letters inside the oval) also with the same looking “A with star” as by the barrel, but also the letter “C with a star” which I can’t find a proof mark for either of these two letters

Then they all have the number “72” punched on them so I believe that a production number when sold??? Saying they all go together or? What y’all think. The serial number I originally thought there must have been more to it but definitely only “1346”

Things a neat little gun that’s for sure
 

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The proof marks are Belgian the crown over R denotes a rifled barrel, the A and C with stars over them are marks by the controller of proof at the Liege proof house.
The oval with a crown is the mark of final proof and is post 1893.

http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_All_Proofmarks.html

Here's a listing of Belgian proof marks and date and controller of proof codes if you'd care to look them up.
 

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How about an overall pic of the pistol.
There should be some at the top of the thread but here’s some more

The proof marks are Belgian the crown over R denotes a rifled barrel, the A and C with stars over them are marks by the controller of proof at the Liege proof house.
The oval with a crown is the mark of final proof and is post 1893.

http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_All_Proofmarks.html

Here's a listing of Belgian proof marks and date and controller of proof codes if you'd care to look them up.
You the man. I couldn’t find the date marks anywhere could only ever find lower case letters never capitols lol. So with all that I can date this gun between 1924-1940
 

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