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GroovyTed1
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Looking for what anyone has to say about the Marlin 45/70 or the Marlin 444 rifles... Or the 44mag rifles they make.
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warpig883
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I have shot one of the 45-70 Marlin guns, They are fun and loud and kick They are not unbearable to shoot and great dependable guns. Last time I looked at them they did not seem to be way overpriced. A friend has a 444 Marlin he likes.
inplanotx
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I have both the Model 1895G and the regular 1895 along with a 1894 in .44 Mag. All are a hoot to shoot and you can clear the range real easy when those bad boys bark. Especially with Rem. 405 gr slugs. I also have the Browning 1886 and she is a beauty. The 1894 is fairly mild to shoot considering you have a pistol round in a rifle. Then again, if you roll your own loads, it gets very interesting with 300 gr Noslers and a case full of WW296. Then it starts to shine! Good luck on your choice. I do prefer the Browning.
I am not a native Texan, but I got here as fast as I could!
the real fredneck
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son has an 1895G in 45/70 great gun only 2 real and one perceived fault, the factory sights suck trash, them immediately, second the lawyer safety, lastly I'm partial to the full size 1895
GroovyTed1
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Thanks Guys...
What about availability and quality of factory ammo in 45/70 vs. 444?
Currently, I don't reload my own ammo, but will sometime before I'm dead, so for now I have to buy factory ammo.
I read an article somewhere that said handloaders would prefer the 45/70, while non-loaders would prefer the 444. However, I can find very little factory .444 ammo out there, and there seems to be a bit more available in 45/70. But, I also read that the 45/70's tend to be downloaded to be compatible with older guns...
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warpig883
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The gunshops I frequent have both. I think the 45-70 is easier to find. Walmart even has some.
Don't forget the 450 Marlin
GroovyTed1
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Hmmmmm.... the .450 marlin... Does anyone have one of these? Is it true that you can put 45/70 cartridges through this one as well?
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kdub01
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As the proud owner of a Marlin 1895LTD in 45-70, I can attest to it's fine handling qualities and accuracy with tweaked handloads. Never fired a factory round thru it, so don't know how well they work.
Took the factory buckhorn sight off and replaced with a Williams receiver peep sight - worked wonders! Added a Burris 2x7 pistol scope on a XS Lever Scout scope mount and found instant success!
Don't know if standard 45-70's can be chambered and safely fired in a .450, or not. That's someone else's option - I'm perfectly content with the one I have.
"Keep Off The Ridgeline"
WyomingSwede
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Got a 45-70 guide gun...fairly accurate, shoots handloads and factory equally well. Did what Ken did and put on a Williams receiver sight. Helped a lot...plan on keeping it. swede
Wyoming Swede
Hadaway
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I don't think you can shoot a 45-70 through a 450. The 450 is a belted case and is designed so that it won't chamber in a 45-70 chamber. Also, the rim on a 45-70 is larger than the 450 rim, so I'm not sure that you can close the bolt on a 45-70 in a 450 chamber.
I have built a lot of takedowns on the Marlins. 45-70, 450, 30-30, 35, 44 and 357 mag. All are great rifles. Stronger and smoother than any Winchester.
I really like the XS Ghost Ring sights. They are very fast and a good quality sight.
Thanks,
Lee
www.thearmsroom.com
Xracer
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(12/17/02 8:32:55 am)
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Majormagnum......welcome to TFF....and thanks for your input.
GroovyTed1
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(12/22/02 8:41:12 am)
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Thanks everyone for all the input!
-gt
Dave1
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Hi,for a good factory load in .444 marlin why not try the new Hornady .444?/www.hornady.com/cgi-bin/...l&cart_id=
Airickf
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Hi,
I'm thinking about buying a Marlin 1895GS 45/70. I never shot a 45/70 and was wondering how the kick compares to a 12 gauge shot gun shooting slugs.
thanks for your input,
-Eric
kdub01
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(1/6/03 2:35:11 pm)
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Welcome to the board, Airickf -
The 45-70 recoil depends on whether you're shooting factory or similar low to moderate loaded ammo, or handloads built up to maximize the potential of the Marlin 1895 type lever gun.
The lower to moderate loads could possibly be equated to a heavy slug load in a 12 gauge. The full load handloads will be a bit stronger. The key to handling the 1895 is to yank the factory recoil pad off and install either a Pachmyer Decelerator or a Kick-eze pad.
"Keep Off The Ridgeline"
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(11/27/02 9:35:06 am)
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Looking for what anyone has to say about the Marlin 45/70 or the Marlin 444 rifles... Or the 44mag rifles they make.
-gt
warpig883
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Posts: 5360
(11/27/02 1:05:41 pm)
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Re: Marlin rifles
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I have shot one of the 45-70 Marlin guns, They are fun and loud and kick They are not unbearable to shoot and great dependable guns. Last time I looked at them they did not seem to be way overpriced. A friend has a 444 Marlin he likes.
inplanotx
V.I.P. Member
Posts: 82
(11/27/02 4:01:53 pm)
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I have both the Model 1895G and the regular 1895 along with a 1894 in .44 Mag. All are a hoot to shoot and you can clear the range real easy when those bad boys bark. Especially with Rem. 405 gr slugs. I also have the Browning 1886 and she is a beauty. The 1894 is fairly mild to shoot considering you have a pistol round in a rifle. Then again, if you roll your own loads, it gets very interesting with 300 gr Noslers and a case full of WW296. Then it starts to shine! Good luck on your choice. I do prefer the Browning.
I am not a native Texan, but I got here as fast as I could!
the real fredneck
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Posts: 1172
(11/27/02 7:26:22 pm)
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son has an 1895G in 45/70 great gun only 2 real and one perceived fault, the factory sights suck trash, them immediately, second the lawyer safety, lastly I'm partial to the full size 1895
GroovyTed1
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Posts: 12
(11/28/02 11:06:52 am)
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Thanks Guys...
What about availability and quality of factory ammo in 45/70 vs. 444?
Currently, I don't reload my own ammo, but will sometime before I'm dead, so for now I have to buy factory ammo.
I read an article somewhere that said handloaders would prefer the 45/70, while non-loaders would prefer the 444. However, I can find very little factory .444 ammo out there, and there seems to be a bit more available in 45/70. But, I also read that the 45/70's tend to be downloaded to be compatible with older guns...
-gt
warpig883
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(11/28/02 11:20:53 am)
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The gunshops I frequent have both. I think the 45-70 is easier to find. Walmart even has some.
Don't forget the 450 Marlin
GroovyTed1
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(11/28/02 12:00:52 pm)
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Hmmmmm.... the .450 marlin... Does anyone have one of these? Is it true that you can put 45/70 cartridges through this one as well?
-gt
kdub01
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Posts: 1493
(11/28/02 12:09:20 pm)
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As the proud owner of a Marlin 1895LTD in 45-70, I can attest to it's fine handling qualities and accuracy with tweaked handloads. Never fired a factory round thru it, so don't know how well they work.
Took the factory buckhorn sight off and replaced with a Williams receiver peep sight - worked wonders! Added a Burris 2x7 pistol scope on a XS Lever Scout scope mount and found instant success!
Don't know if standard 45-70's can be chambered and safely fired in a .450, or not. That's someone else's option - I'm perfectly content with the one I have.
"Keep Off The Ridgeline"
WyomingSwede
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(11/28/02 10:31:52 pm)
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Got a 45-70 guide gun...fairly accurate, shoots handloads and factory equally well. Did what Ken did and put on a Williams receiver sight. Helped a lot...plan on keeping it. swede
Wyoming Swede
Hadaway
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(12/5/02 12:40:07 am)
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I don't think you can shoot a 45-70 through a 450. The 450 is a belted case and is designed so that it won't chamber in a 45-70 chamber. Also, the rim on a 45-70 is larger than the 450 rim, so I'm not sure that you can close the bolt on a 45-70 in a 450 chamber.
I have built a lot of takedowns on the Marlins. 45-70, 450, 30-30, 35, 44 and 357 mag. All are great rifles. Stronger and smoother than any Winchester.
I really like the XS Ghost Ring sights. They are very fast and a good quality sight.
Thanks,
Lee
www.thearmsroom.com
Xracer
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(12/17/02 8:32:55 am)
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Majormagnum......welcome to TFF....and thanks for your input.
GroovyTed1
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(12/22/02 8:41:12 am)
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Thanks everyone for all the input!
-gt
Dave1
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(1/2/03 9:16:13 am)
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Hi,for a good factory load in .444 marlin why not try the new Hornady .444?/www.hornady.com/cgi-bin/...l&cart_id=
Airickf
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(1/5/03 11:41:25 pm)
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Hi,
I'm thinking about buying a Marlin 1895GS 45/70. I never shot a 45/70 and was wondering how the kick compares to a 12 gauge shot gun shooting slugs.
thanks for your input,
-Eric
kdub01
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Posts: 1714
(1/6/03 2:35:11 pm)
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Welcome to the board, Airickf -
The 45-70 recoil depends on whether you're shooting factory or similar low to moderate loaded ammo, or handloads built up to maximize the potential of the Marlin 1895 type lever gun.
The lower to moderate loads could possibly be equated to a heavy slug load in a 12 gauge. The full load handloads will be a bit stronger. The key to handling the 1895 is to yank the factory recoil pad off and install either a Pachmyer Decelerator or a Kick-eze pad.
"Keep Off The Ridgeline"