Mexican ambassador still spouting the 90% figure

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  1. alhefner

    alhefner New Member

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    Today on "Face the Nation", the Mexican ambassador refused to budge from the statement that 90% of confiscated firearms have a US origin.

    When confronted with the NRA-GOA figure that the real number is more like 17%, he went to the tangent of "assault rifles" but still held firm to the 90% fallacy. When asked about all the weapons coming into Mexico from other entry points such as southern borders and shipping ports, he went off on a tangent that they found "grenades" coming in from the southern border and refused to even mention the fully automatic weapons coming in from those sources.

    The final point of that interview had to do with the AWB that expired in 2004. The ambassador flatly stated that allowing the AWB to expire was the cause for huge numbers of "assault rifles" being brought into Mexico.

    The Mexican government is trying to directly influence US law here. My personal solution to the Mexican problem is for the US government to truck in semi-trailer loads of weapons to Mexico, close up the border and just wait till the dust clears.
     
  2. miker22

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    Well, I guess he could have admitted that the Mexican govt is not in control and unable to stop the flow of weapons from their army to the drug lords or unable to stop the drug lords from bringing in full auto weapons and explosives.

    Probably not PC. Easier to blame the US.

    If guns coming from US into Mexico is a problem, why not close the border? Same old, same old. Just need to make it harder on the law abiding citizens = that will fix the problem.
     

  3. bcj1755

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    If the Mexicans want to say that we are the problem, I have a solution to that. We shut down the border completely. Nothing gets across either way. The only exception is any illegal Mexican found in the US, we send them back. Any illegal found trying to enter the US gets shot immediately and without warning. When Mexico complains, we tell them that since they think the US is causing their problems, then they can just go ahead and solve it on their own without us, and without any foreign aid or other money from us. I'd give it about 2-3 months before the Mexican gov't comes begging us for aid and money. When they do, we tell them again to solve their own problems. Too bad Barry or anyone else in our gov't doesn't have the jimmies to do it because it's not PC and it might offend someone:rolleyes:
     
  4. cycloneman

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    yea this a-hole is up to something and i think someone is puttin him up to it. we have to suffer and put up the awb again to benefit them but we must suffer with illegal people and drugs.

    hay ambassador de mexico - screw u
     
  5. ponycar17

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    I believe the US and Mexican governments are in bed with each other on this effort. The damn liberals here have found a willing *but stupid* ally in the Mexican government for conveying false information regarding US gun control regulations.

    Eric Holder must have a hard time believing that Americans overall can think, even if they couldn't in the neighborhoods he's most familiar with... :rolleyes:
     
  6. Stays_Crunchy

    Stays_Crunchy New Member

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    But... but I like burritos! :(
     
  7. kingcuke

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    This is just positioning by Mexico to try and get more financial aid from the US.
    They're just trying to make a bunch of noise and try and pin the blame on the US hoping for more US $$. The Mexican govt, by blaming the violence on US guns, is trying to take the focus away from their own incompetence and corruption. Close the border, all the souvenirs are made in China now anyhow.
     
  8. obxned

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    They could always build a fence!
     
  9. Millwright

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    Of Course he is !! The alternative is to admit the bulk of the weapons being used by the cartels come from the Mexican government or from its inability to control the smuggling of significant quantities of world market arms into Mexico !! >MW
     
  10. GMFWoodchuck

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    ditto.
     
  11. GMFWoodchuck

    GMFWoodchuck New Member

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    ditto
     
  12. sewerman

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    i'm sure when hillary visited mexcio she spent alotta time on her knees.

    she promised her following she would not let the illegal drug trade and arms smuggling topics go...funny haven't heard much on the drug issue.

    i'm sure the mexcian president was paid handsomely to keep the *hit flying about hillaries gun issue.

    big money buys allies

    sewerman
     
  13. questor

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    What's a nice girl like you doing with an arsenal like this? Police seize 20-year-old guarding vast weapons cache... including anti-aircraft gun.


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    Mexican detained with anti-aircraft machine gun

    Apr 14 03:12 PM US/Eastern
    By E. EDUARDO CASTILLO
    Associated Press Writer
    MEXICO CITY (AP) - A woman was arrested guarding an arsenal that included an anti-aircraft machine gun—the first weapon of its kind seized in Mexico, police said Tuesday.

    The arsenal belonged to a group linked to the powerful Beltran Leyva drug cartel, federal police coordinator Gen. Rodolfo Cruz said. It also included ammunition, five rifles, a grenade and part of a grenade launcher.

    Mexican drug cartels, battling a fierce crackdown by soldiers and federal police, have increasingly gotten hold of higher-powered weapons, even military-grade arms such as grenades and machine guns. That has left police—particularly state and municipal forces—grossly outgunned, and many officers have quit following attacks.

    Cruz said the confiscated .50-caliber, anti-aircraft machine gun can fire 800 rounds per minute and is capable of penetrating armor from more than 5,000 feet (1,500 meters). Police on a routine patrol Monday found the gun fitted atop an SUV at a house in northern Sonora state.

    Authorities did not release any other details about the gun, including its make, where it was manufactured, or where it was sold.

    The arrested suspect, Anahi Beltran Cabrera, apparently is not related to the Beltran Leyva clan, Cruz said.

    The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has traced many guns seized at scenes of drug violence in Mexico to U.S. commercial sources. But determining the source of military-grade weapons such as grenades and fully automatic machine guns is more complicated.

    The ATF says the grenades are mostly smuggled in through Central America, and have been traced back to the militaries of many countries, from South Korea to Spain and Israel. Some may be leftovers from the Central American civil wars.

    Assailants have fired on government aircraft performing anti-drug missions in Mexico in the past, but apparently never with the caliber of weapon found Monday.

    In 2006, a helicopter on a federal drug-eradication mission crashed while trying to escape ground fire, and a second helicopter was damaged by gunfire in the Pacific coast state of Guerrero.

    Mexico is upgrading its northern and southern border checkpoints in an effort to detect and seize more guns and other contraband, installing equipment that will weigh and photograph each car and truck coming into the country.

    President Barack Obama has promised to do more to stop gun trafficking from the United States to Mexico. He has pledged to dispatch nearly 500 more federal agents to the border, along with X-ray machines and drug-sniffing dogs.

    Mexico's drug violence has claimed more than 10,650 lives since President Felipe Calderon launched a military-led offensive against trafficking cartels in December 2006.

    In March, the government sent thousands more troops to the northern border to quell escalating violence. The government announced Sunday that drug-related homicides fell 26 percent across the country in the first three months of the year, compared to the same period in 2008.
     
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  14. alhefner

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    Gee, wonder how Hillary and Pelosi will link that one to a "straw buyer" in Texas?
     
  15. Deputy Dawg

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    I am sure that she will find a way.:mad::mad: