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Mossberg 20" Predator MVP. 5.56mm chamber, 1-9 twist, takes AR-15 mags. Nikon Monarch 3x9 with BDC with Burris Signature Zee rings.
My new "Walking Around" Varmint rifle to complement the Swift...
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Nice!
I'd love to hear the range report.
I was eyeballing that Mossberg earlier this summer because it was the only fast-twist and 5.56x45 chamber bolt gun that I had found to date.
I like the Mossberg action too so all around it looks like a winner in my book.
I'd love to hear the range report.
I was eyeballing that Mossberg earlier this summer because it was the only fast-twist and 5.56x45 chamber bolt gun that I had found to date.
I like the Mossberg action too so all around it looks like a winner in my book.
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That's a beautiful rifle.
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I have all the AR mags I want.
Even IF my son just "took back" the dozen he somehow inherited when he got out of the Army when he bought his Daewoo at the January 1500 show, LOL.
I have my Rock River AR 16", the only reason I don't like it for my P-Dog carry gun is I'm getting too old to crawl around on my hands and knees in the cactus, rattlesnakes and prairie dog fleas and droppings to pick up my BRASS....
Last Sunday I sighted it in at 25 from my Trigger Stick Tripod to get it on paper in my back yard, so it will be on at 100, since my range frowns upon rifles on the pistol range...
It fed 14 rounds PMC fine from a Cmag 30 round military mag....which is all I had in it and enough since my fingers were already numb before I finished
I will shoot it for groups from a bench at 100 as soon as the weather breaks a little... As it was when I got it dialed in it shot maybe a 1/2" 3 shot group about 2" high at 25 which should have me on bull at 200...while I expected one hole at 25 remember my fingers were numb and I just got the Trigger Stick for Christmas so I was getting used to it at the same time....and it WAS el cheapo PMC hardball...
The trigger is GREAT, kind of a knock off Savage Accutrigger...maybe 2.5 lbs when I adjusted it...
The bolt has just a little more "Wiggle-slop" in it than I would like, compared to my Ruger M77, or the Savages, or M700 Varmints I have shot...
But so far so good....I like it because I don't have to sort my .223 brass between my AR and my bolt gun, I will probably still full length size instead of just neck size for accuracy like my Swift...but all the tests I've seen say it likes 55 gr surplus ammo and up, like 62 gr American Eagle into 1/2 "....
I'm thinking my 60 gr Vmaxs I have left over from my Swift testing might be just fine with the 1-9 twist...
My Swift is still my main gun from the bench, but this one should work well from the bench too...especially since my RASS is designed for ARs and the split rail allows 30 round mags....
My goal is a "Walking around" gun out to about 200 on p-dogs off the Trigger stick.....I think this will do the trick.
I saw a MVP 24" Varmint at Gander Mountain before Christmas for $579....and just after Christmas came into some cash about the time of the school shooting and my wife thought I ought to buy it now once the AR ban hysteria hit high gear since it tool AR mags, and it was sold out, with none available at any store...
Then I started to bid on a few, both Predators and Varmints on GB, and they all went for over 7 bills, some over 8!!! BEFORE shipping and FFL fees!
Two weeks ago I went to the INDY 1500 show, and an hour into the Chaos I see a Mossberg box with no display on a dealers tables, and when I get to it, see "Predator" and ask how much, he says $495 and I say I'll take it! Didn't even look at it, didn't even know it it was the 18.5" or the 20"...(I wanted the 20...."
It turned out to be the ONLY one at the show.
I gave $239 plus tax for the Nikon from the scope dealer that seemed the cheapest after I checked out the entire show, and $37 for the rings (the Harris bipod I already owned)
Overall I think I am shooter ready for a lot less than it would have cost me for just the rifle from GB, plus shipping and FFL fee....
Life is good....
Even IF my son just "took back" the dozen he somehow inherited when he got out of the Army when he bought his Daewoo at the January 1500 show, LOL.
I have my Rock River AR 16", the only reason I don't like it for my P-Dog carry gun is I'm getting too old to crawl around on my hands and knees in the cactus, rattlesnakes and prairie dog fleas and droppings to pick up my BRASS....
Last Sunday I sighted it in at 25 from my Trigger Stick Tripod to get it on paper in my back yard, so it will be on at 100, since my range frowns upon rifles on the pistol range...
It fed 14 rounds PMC fine from a Cmag 30 round military mag....which is all I had in it and enough since my fingers were already numb before I finished
I will shoot it for groups from a bench at 100 as soon as the weather breaks a little... As it was when I got it dialed in it shot maybe a 1/2" 3 shot group about 2" high at 25 which should have me on bull at 200...while I expected one hole at 25 remember my fingers were numb and I just got the Trigger Stick for Christmas so I was getting used to it at the same time....and it WAS el cheapo PMC hardball...
The trigger is GREAT, kind of a knock off Savage Accutrigger...maybe 2.5 lbs when I adjusted it...
The bolt has just a little more "Wiggle-slop" in it than I would like, compared to my Ruger M77, or the Savages, or M700 Varmints I have shot...
But so far so good....I like it because I don't have to sort my .223 brass between my AR and my bolt gun, I will probably still full length size instead of just neck size for accuracy like my Swift...but all the tests I've seen say it likes 55 gr surplus ammo and up, like 62 gr American Eagle into 1/2 "....
I'm thinking my 60 gr Vmaxs I have left over from my Swift testing might be just fine with the 1-9 twist...
My Swift is still my main gun from the bench, but this one should work well from the bench too...especially since my RASS is designed for ARs and the split rail allows 30 round mags....
My goal is a "Walking around" gun out to about 200 on p-dogs off the Trigger stick.....I think this will do the trick.
I saw a MVP 24" Varmint at Gander Mountain before Christmas for $579....and just after Christmas came into some cash about the time of the school shooting and my wife thought I ought to buy it now once the AR ban hysteria hit high gear since it tool AR mags, and it was sold out, with none available at any store...
Then I started to bid on a few, both Predators and Varmints on GB, and they all went for over 7 bills, some over 8!!!
BEFORE shipping and FFL fees!Two weeks ago I went to the INDY 1500 show, and an hour into the Chaos
I see a Mossberg box with no display on a dealers tables, and when I get to it, see "Predator" and ask how much, he says $495 and I say I'll take it! Didn't even look at it, didn't even know it it was the 18.5" or the 20"...(I wanted the 20...."It turned out to be the ONLY one at the show.
I gave $239 plus tax for the Nikon from the scope dealer that seemed the cheapest after I checked out the entire show, and $37 for the rings (the Harris bipod I already owned)
Overall I think I am shooter ready for a lot less than it would have cost me for just the rifle from GB, plus shipping and FFL fee....
Life is good....
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And yeah, it was Brand New never out of the box.
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Sounds like it'll do ya good then.
I do like the shorter barrels for a walk-around rifle. That 20" tube is what caught my eye when I saw one on the rack.
I think it's about the perfect barrel length for a truck gun too...you still have good velocity but it's real handy moving in and out of the cab.
I do like the shorter barrels for a walk-around rifle. That 20" tube is what caught my eye when I saw one on the rack.
I think it's about the perfect barrel length for a truck gun too...you still have good velocity but it's real handy moving in and out of the cab.
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Hey Binder, maybe you would know the answer to the question I posted in Hunting....
We always went out to SD for P-dogs sometimes around the middle of June and got good shooting with no "competition." Mainly because while we had permission to shoot on some private land, we also shot a lot on Federal Land too and the season used to start on June 15th on the Grassland but now is year round.
But last year we went the last week of June into the first week of July and while we killed a bunch, there were a LOT of doggers from out of state around, and a couple of our old towns were either being hunted or had been very recently shot, so it kinda felt like we were getting "sloppy seconds...."
This year we are thinking going out a little earlier, like the last weekend in May/first of June.
Are they out that early? Especially the young ones?
We always went out to SD for P-dogs sometimes around the middle of June and got good shooting with no "competition." Mainly because while we had permission to shoot on some private land, we also shot a lot on Federal Land too and the season used to start on June 15th on the Grassland but now is year round.
But last year we went the last week of June into the first week of July and while we killed a bunch, there were a LOT of doggers from out of state around, and a couple of our old towns were either being hunted or had been very recently shot, so it kinda felt like we were getting "sloppy seconds...."
This year we are thinking going out a little earlier, like the last weekend in May/first of June.
Are they out that early? Especially the young ones?
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Yeah, Binder, I liked the target stock with the high comb on the Varmint better than the standard one on the Predator, but I liked the shorter barrel on the Predator and really couldn't make up my mind. The Varmint comes with a 24" tube....
The only Predators I had seen though had the shorter 18.5" barrel, to tell you the truth it wasn't until I started bidding on one on GB a few weeks ago that I even knew they made it in 20" too...I was torn between the short conventional Pred and the long Varmint with the nicer stock for a scope before then, couldn't make up my mind..
After that I decided I wanted the 20" Predator, the Varmint, and the 18.5" Predator in that order, but when I couldn't find ANY available anywhere, I would have taken any if I found one at a good price.
I was just lucky as heck that the only one I found at the (rare) same time I actually had the cash in my pocket AND the blessing from my wife (THAT doesn't happen often!
)...was my first choice!
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I don't normally stick my head into the hunting forum here so yeah I missed it.
They're normally out in full force at the end of May. Might be a little early for the younguns in some towns but so far we've had a pretty mild winter so I don't think things will be any later than other normal years.
I haven't ventured west river ND at all this winter. This is just from talking with friends in SW ND.
I'm not sure right off hand if SD still closes public land for hunting in early spring. I know they used to a few years back. March through May, maybe it was the first week in June if I remember right. Private land is open year round though.
Wouldn't hurt to check with the GFP to see if the public lands are closed if that's where you've been hunting.
They're normally out in full force at the end of May. Might be a little early for the younguns in some towns but so far we've had a pretty mild winter so I don't think things will be any later than other normal years.
I haven't ventured west river ND at all this winter. This is just from talking with friends in SW ND.
I'm not sure right off hand if SD still closes public land for hunting in early spring. I know they used to a few years back. March through May, maybe it was the first week in June if I remember right. Private land is open year round though.
Wouldn't hurt to check with the GFP to see if the public lands are closed if that's where you've been hunting.
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Thanks Binder!
Yeah, SD used to not aloow P-dog shooting on Federal Land until June 15th but either last year or the year before they made it year round.
Yeah, we struggle with the plague quite a bit, the first year we had a decent town to ourselves on the Grasslands but the second year it was virtually wiped out with the plague...the rangers are usually pretty up to date and helpful pointing out the active towns and the plague towns on the Grasslands if you buy their map, LOL
Yeah, SD used to not aloow P-dog shooting on Federal Land until June 15th but either last year or the year before they made it year round.
Yeah, we struggle with the plague quite a bit, the first year we had a decent town to ourselves on the Grasslands but the second year it was virtually wiped out with the plague...the rangers are usually pretty up to date and helpful pointing out the active towns and the plague towns on the Grasslands if you buy their map, LOL
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Polish,
Never seen one of them. That is a good looking rifle. DO they make that in staneless steal or just regular? I used to not like staneless guns but now I have a couple I think there great. Only like the dull ones tho not the miror-shiney finish that alerts all game in 10 miles.
What load are you going to use on prarie dogs?
Never seen one of them. That is a good looking rifle. DO they make that in staneless steal or just regular? I used to not like staneless guns but now I have a couple I think there great. Only like the dull ones tho not the miror-shiney finish that alerts all game in 10 miles.
What load are you going to use on prarie dogs?
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KY, I have only sighted it at 25 to get it on target at 100 with cheap PMC 55gr fmj, it's been too cold to get any serious range time.
But this coming week the weather is supposed to break and my son joined a range and is planning to shoot his Daewoo Monday afternoon so I told him I would try to finagle my schedule to shoot with him, he is after all 2 hours away.
Of course, it's probably that he not only wants to shoot his new XD 9mm, but that he figures I will bring enmough .223 with me he can also shoot his Daewoo...LOL
I have some 62 gr S&B M855 I will probably shoot first, since I have read it likes heavier bullets, plus I have some 60 gr Vmax loaded up for my AR I will try, after I found out the Swift didn't like them.
I haven't done any ladder tests with it yet, which I plan to do to find a load it likes, I am hoping it likes my 60 gr AR loads and I can get lucky!
No it isn't available yet in stainless. I would have preferred it in stainless, but I can li ve with it.
But this coming week the weather is supposed to break and my son joined a range and is planning to shoot his Daewoo Monday afternoon so I told him I would try to finagle my schedule to shoot with him, he is after all 2 hours away.
Of course, it's probably that he not only wants to shoot his new XD 9mm, but that he figures I will bring enmough .223 with me he can also shoot his Daewoo...LOL
I have some 62 gr S&B M855 I will probably shoot first, since I have read it likes heavier bullets, plus I have some 60 gr Vmax loaded up for my AR I will try, after I found out the Swift didn't like them.
I haven't done any ladder tests with it yet, which I plan to do to find a load it likes, I am hoping it likes my 60 gr AR loads and I can get lucky!
No it isn't available yet in stainless. I would have preferred it in stainless, but I can li ve with it.
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