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Mystery Mauser

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by Cogswell8, Jan 7, 2018.

  1. Cogswell8

    Cogswell8 New Member

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    IMG_5014.JPG IMG_5015.JPG IMG_5018.JPG IMG_5020.JPG IMG_5015.JPG IMG_5017.JPG IMG_5022.JPG IMG_5023.JPG Ladies and Gentlemen,

    I recently purchased this rifle at an estate auction - so I know nothing of its history. The price was so cheap - and I have a couple of other "antiques" so I thought it was a good idea (we'll see).

    I've done a little research, but haven't gotten far. I'm guessing this is a Mauser, but the markings are lacking. The only thing I can find is "B9212" with what looks to be a maker's mark. The receiver markings are almost worn off.

    Any thoughts? Let me know if there is somewhere else I should be looking for marks.

    Thanks,
    Cogswell
     
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  2. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

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    I want to say that it looks like a 1903-A3, but not 100% sure. I would like to see a picture of the whole rifle, both sides, if possible.
     

  3. Cogswell8

    Cogswell8 New Member

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    IMG_5024.JPG IMG_5025.JPG Here are the pics of the whole gun - thanks!
     
  4. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

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    Nope, not a 1903-A3. It is a mauser, without a doubt, but without being able to read what it has over the chamber, it would be hard to tell you exactly what it is. I can tell you that it has been customized (with the stock cut down) and the rear sight is missing some of its parts. I have three mausers from different countries, and I just went down and looked at. The actions on all three of them look like the action on yours. Hopefully someone with a lot more knowledge than me will come along to help you!
     
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  5. grcsat

    grcsat Well-Known Member

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    Model 93 Spanish Mauser. It has been modified and is no longer in military configuration.
     
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  6. Cogswell8

    Cogswell8 New Member

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    Thanks for all the info! Should at least make a good wall hanger.

    What caliber is it? Wouldn't mind taking it to a range at least once.
     
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  7. nmckenzie

    nmckenzie Well-Known Member

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    Oviedo (Arsenal). Rear sight configuration suggests it's a Model 1895 Short Rifle.
     
  8. nmckenzie

    nmckenzie Well-Known Member

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    Assuming it hasn't been converted to the Spanish 7.62x51mmCETME cartridge it's probably still in the original 7x57mm Mauser caliber.
     
  9. Old Guns

    Old Guns Well-Known Member

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    Someone has ground the receiver and barrel to look like one piece. This is a critical area and may have rendered the gun unsafe. It should look like the picture below. A Mauser Barrel does not have a very long threaded section.

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  10. Twicepop

    Twicepop Well-Known Member

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    There is no defining division between the barrel and the receiver. "Old Guns" posted that it appears that someone has ground the end of the receiver to match the barrel contour, he might be spot on with that. If that's the case, I would never touch of a round in that gun, the receiver strength and maybe even the barrel have been compromised.
     
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  11. nmckenzie

    nmckenzie Well-Known Member

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    Once knew a guy who'd done exactly that to US M1917 he'd bought from the DCM. Not only did he taper the receiver ring, but he continued this process going forward over the chamber. The barreled action looked like a pool cue by the time he was finished. No idea if he ever fired it.
     
  12. roundball

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    Bet it would help get a better view of the left side of the receiver. That looks like a 93 bolt in some sort of 98 looking receiver. Note the thumb cut in the left of the receiver. There may be a seam where the barrel and receiver screw together way forward of most any Mauser. That is a strange wall hanger.
     
  13. Cogswell8

    Cogswell8 New Member

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    Y'all are amazing! It'll have to just hang over the Chinese Mosin I have. That one is full military and does fire (kicks like an angry mule!)

    Thanks again! IMG_5035.JPG