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Need help identifying a few long guns

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by podmark, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. podmark

    podmark New Member

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    Greetings Everyone,
    I'm purchasing a small collection from the widow of a good friend who recently passed away. I've excluded the firearms I've been able to identify myself and included 1 that I'm fairly confident of the manufacturer but unsure of the model. Getting more pictures or information might be difficult.

    I'd like to enlist the expertise of the forum in identifying these firearms I'm looking to purchase. I only need help identifying the manufacturer and possibly model, valuation information is not needed but certainly welcome. Any help is greatly appreciated, thank you :)

    Note: None should be newer than 2000-2005 and most are probably from the 80's and 90's.

    Unknown Bolt Action Rifle w/Scope

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    • Firpo suggested this might be a Ruger M77
    Unknown Bolt Action Rifle

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    • Gdmoody suggested this might be a sporterized Enfied P17
    Unknown Semi-auto Shotgun

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    • I originally thought this was a Browning Maxus but it's probably too old for that. I'm still thinking along the lines of Browning, but most older models have a hump where the receiver meets the butt.
    • Besides the jeweled bolt, no other distinguishing features are visible.
    Remington 700 Wingmaster Left-Hand

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    • Appears to have a (faint) wildlife engraving on receiver.
    • Cutout on forend doesn't look standard for a Wingmaster.
    • Possibly a commemorative or non-Wingmaster special edition?
    [Edit]Removed recently identified, thank you!
     
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  2. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

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    Welcome to the forum podmark. I can't tell by just looking at a picture but I would think that the manufacturer and model number of each gun would be roll stamped on the receiver or barrel of each one. If you were close enough to take a picture, you should have been close enough to read what was printed.
     
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  3. Firpo

    Firpo Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    There must be some sort of roll stamp on them. Please post pictures. The one with the black synthetic stock looks a lot like my Ruger M77.
     
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    Big Mak Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Yep, what ^^They said.
    Close up pics of any markings of each. Perhaps separate threads. The "Shotgun approach" when determining value never works well on this forum of perhaps the best experts I've run across!
     
  5. joe45c

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    the top bolt action is a winchester featherweight. The lever action is a Marlin 336.
     
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  6. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

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    I have looked at each one of them and I do believe that the third one down is a sporterized Enfield P17 . I am just basing that thought on the safety lever on the rear of the action and the way the bolt handle is shaped.
     
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  7. podmark

    podmark New Member

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    Thanks for the welcome and replies, it is much appreciated :) I'm going to look further into some of the manufacturers suggested as that's way further than I've gotten so far. The semi-automatic shotgun really stumped me as I thought I had it nailed down to a Browning. Ah well!

    Unfortunately, these are the only pictures that were sent to me by my friend's widow. I wasn't even aware she was selling his collection and when she asked me, these pictures had already been taken. If I knew beforehand I would've suggested she take pictures of the markings but alas, this is all I have to go on. Getting more pictures will be difficult as the family still dealing with the estate and none of them are really familiar with firearms.

    The entire collection right now is in a safe and I'm basically buying the whole lot. It's quite possible that the next opportunity for me to take pictures is when I'll be picking everything up for transport. Anyway, thanks again everyone and I really appreciate the suggestions!

    [Edit] Oh and I wasn't sure about posting many small threads vs. one large thread as I know that is sometimes frowned upon. If that is an acceptable approach I'll definitely consider it should this thread not work out. Thanks for the suggestion.
     
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  8. Alpo

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    Well, first off, a Remington 700 is a bolt action rifle, not a pump shotgun.

    Secondly, Remington Wingmaster triggergroups are held in with two cross pins, not screws.

    And thirdly, that is an Ithaca 37 with a deer barrel on it. The lug on the bottom of the barrel, at the foreend, verifies what the IT visible on the pistolgrip cap suggests. :)
     
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  9. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

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    That could be, as George said, a sporterized 1917. But Remington took that gun and made a civilian version, after the war. The Remington Model 30. So it could be one of them.

    But I agree. With that bolt handle and safety, it's a 1917-based gun.
     
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  10. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

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    The sythetic stocked rifle. I agree, it's an older Ruger 77. They were the only bolt gun I'm aware of with a tang safety, and they also had that thingy in the triggerguard to open the magazine.

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  11. BillM

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    Near as I can tell from your picture, the semi auto shotgun
    is a Winchester Model 1 Super X

    So---
    Ruger 77 tang safety
    Some version of the P14/P17 sporterized Enfield
    Winchester Model 1 Super X
    Ithaca 37, either a "Deerslayer" model or a 37 with a slug barrel.
     
  12. joe45c

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    I think you are right bill, it does look like a winchester super x semi auto.
     
  13. gdmoody

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    Yep, that last one is an Ithaca Model 37 Deerslayer shotgun. I have one and last night did not have access to it, this morning I took mine out and compared, hard to tell in the picture but looks like the same etching on the right side of it and serial number is in the same place. Since the empty shell ejects through the bottom, it could be thought of a left handed!

    NOTE: The one in the picture is not much older than mine since that Serial number starts with 3714 and mine starts with 3717.
     
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  14. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

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    That Ithaca is either '74 or '75, depending on whether that is 3714 or 3715. I can't tell.

    George, depending on the rest of the number, yours is either late '81, '82 or early '83.
     
  15. gdmoody

    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

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    I don't know Alpo, I seem to remember buying it new in the mid-70's. I could be wrong though, the decade of the 70's is kind of cloudy in my mind (I used to drink a little).


    EDIT: I just went and looked at it again, the SN# on mine is 371478733 and then I searched for Ithaca serial numbers and see that it was made in 1975. SO, my memory is not as bad as I thought it might be!:rolleyes::cool:
     
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