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Need help identifying shotguns and hummerguns from my collection

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by Timur, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. Timur

    Timur New Member

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    Hi there again! I created one thread yesterday with one of my hummerguns here and you really helped me identifying it. So I decided to post here all of my unidentified vintage arms.

    The first one: http://imgur.com/a/qWlho ( I dont know anything about it, even origin)

    The second one: http://imgur.com/a/nvqzn (I cant remove barrels, but as I remember where is some stamps under. If my memory serves me, it is called "Darne". This shotgun has great background. It was given to the soldier of Red Army for the capture of Berlin.)

    The third one: http://imgur.com/a/LJkAt ( I think the strangest shotgun in my collection. As I know, this shotgun was made from an old european bolt-action rifle ( probably, german one). Now it is 32-gauge shotgun. Such shotguns are called "Frolovka" in Russia. There is stamp "88" on the bolt. I am interested on what basis was it created.
    I have more unidentified arms, but they are not really interesting.

    I would be really appreciated if you could help me again!
     
  2. Alpo

    Alpo Well-Known Member

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    The first one is Belgian. I can't make out the marks on the barrel - glare and shadow. I suggest putting some flour on the barrel, then wiping it off with your finger. The flour should stay inside the indentations, and make all the marks show up white.

    The second one is, indeed, a Darne. Sweet gun, and the wood is gorgeous. They are French.

    No idea on the third.
     
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  3. Timur

    Timur New Member

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    If it is necessary, I can post additional photos.
     
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    grcsat Well-Known Member

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    I think Alpo is right about the second one . It appears to be a French- Darne V22.
     
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    I don't think so. If I'm reading this page correctly, only the lower grades had plain wood forearms. The higher grades, including all of the Vs, had horn tips. That picture looks like just wood, to me. That would make it either a Halifax-series, or one of the five lower grades of the R-series.

    https://www.doublegunshop.com/darne.htm

    Looking a little closer, though, both the Halifax and the R have a safety LEVER, while all the others have a safety BUTTON, and it appears to be a BUTTON on that picture.

    So I don't know what the hell model it is. :confused:
     
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    I could be wrong. The old memory is not what it used to be. And I'm only of my first cup of coffee.:)
     
  7. Timur

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    Ahahah, I am thrilled to bits now, because v22 can cost more than 20000$. I will take some detailed photos soon and post them.