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I am not a bad shot. But there has to be something wrong with the action on this LCP MAX. The spent shells come out consistently deformed and scuffed. These are the first rounds put through this firearm today and It instills NO confidence.
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My GLOCK G43 is deadly accurate at the double the distances.


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Is it full of factory grease ?
Do the rounds seem to be sticking or the action working slowly ?
Are you using a firm grip ?
No grease.

A peculiar phenomenon with this gun: TO LOAD: feed a full magazine into the gun. You must not rack the slide slow or the bullet will jam. One MUST rack the slide FAST.

TO UNLOAD: you cannot pull the slide back and have the bullet fall out, if you do the bullet will jam. And not just jam, but freeze the slide. Really tight. I will be RUGER will have me overnight this gun to them. I am already eyeing the G42. This is BS.
You must rack it fast in order to eject the bullet.

hmmmm…firm grip…..i know with glocks a limp wrist caused issues. I would think i had a pretty firm grip today.
 

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A peculiar phenomenon with this gun: TO LOAD: feed a full magazine into the gun. You must not rack the slide slow or the bullet will jam. One MUST rack the slide FAST.

TO UNLOAD: you cannot pull the slide back and have the bullet fall out, if you do the bullet will jam. And not just jam, but freeze the slide. Really tight. I will be RUGER will have me overnight this gun to them. I am already eyeing the G42. This is BS.
You must rack it fast in order to eject the bullet.

hmmmm…firm grip…..i know with glocks a limp wrist caused issues. I would think i had a pretty firm grip today.
As is the case with many pistols - you need to rack the slide fast to load. You need pull the slide back hard for the case to eject.

The term limp wrist goes back to 1911's in 45ACP.

How big was this barn? What size group did you shoot at what distance? Did you try other factory ammunition?
 

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What other firearms have you been shooting that assures you that you are not a bad shot?
The condition of the spent cartridges shouldn't be a condition of accuracy.....just the quality of the piece.
crack me up! I am just saying, I am not a bad enough a shot that I couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn door… but I see your point. Also just a coincidence that I cannot hit steel plates from about 7 yards AND the cases have a consistent ejection signature that is not right. Either that or the Ruger LCP Max sucks. These are the first rounds fired through it and we have a problem that I thought someone here might recognize.
 

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As is the case with many pistols - you need to rack the slide fast to load. You need pull the slide back hard for the case to eject.

The term limp wrist goes back to 1911's in 45ACP.

How big was this barn? What size group did you shoot at what distance? Did you try other factory ammunition?
My glocks are smooth as snot. Like a fine machine. A Glock racks like buttuh, IMO.
I have four Glocks and I must be spoiled.
Thats the problem, if i were shooting paper I think i would need a billboard.
I was about 7 yards even got closer.
Very poor.
I am not a real rocket scientist but after seeing those marks on the casings, something is causing the shell to exert momentary friction and transfer energy that would otherwise be used to eject it….I think this energy converts the moment mass to inertia, moves the pistol, deflects the bullet trajectory to meessup my shot. No Bueno:(
 

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I JUST got moderated for profanity. Will the “G” moderator please PM me and let me know what i wrote so I dont do it again. I write on many forums at once and need to be sure I am following the rules, with sincerely apologies.
 

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crack me up! I am just saying, I am not a bad enough a shot that I couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn door… but I see your point. Also just a coincidence that I cannot hit steel plates from about 7 yards AND the cases have a consistent ejection signature that is not right. Either that or the Ruger LCP Max sucks. These are the first rounds fired through it and we have a problem that I thought someone here might recognize.
Without knowing your shooting prowess, it is possible that you are expecting too much out of this little LCP. They are not know for accuracy at great distances.
 
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The LCP could hit a paper plate at 7 yards at the NRA indoor range, no problem.
This is the new and improved 3-Gen Ruger LCP MAX.
I walked 7 paces and turned around.
I would hope to be able to hit a platter consistently at 7 yards to be confident with it in my pants.
I think there is something really wrong with It. Already pricing Glock 42.
 

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.... something is causing the shell to exert momentary friction and transfer energy that would otherwise be used to eject it….I think this energy converts the moment mass to inertia, moves the pistol, deflects the bullet trajectory to meessup my shot. No Bueno:(
Yep - that's exactly what I say whenever I miss a shot. :cool:
 

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I JUST got moderated for profanity. Will the “G” moderator please PM me and let me know what i wrote so I dont do it again. I write on many forums at once and need to be sure I am following the rules, with sincerely apologies.
I don't have to send you a PM, I will let you know right here that profanity is not allowed on TFF no matter how you try hide it by using the initials for the profanity (which you did) or by spelling it out with what appears to be an inverted "i", such as sh!p, which you did. Profanity has never been allowed on TFF and never will, if you want to call it G rated, then so be !t because we are. If you don't like the rules then maybe you should stay on those other forums.
 

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I don't have to send you a PM, I will let you know right here that profanity is not allowed on TFF no matter how you try hide it by using the initials for the profanity (which you did) or by spelling it out with what appears to be an inverted "i", such as sh!p, which you did. Profanity has never been allowed on TFF and never will, if you want to call it G rated, then so be !t because we are. If you don't like the rules then maybe you should stay on those other forums.
Okay, okay sheesh. I get it. We are all adults here. Sorry, it won’t happen again.
 

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I shoot an older LCP, and have never experienced any issues like this. In fact, I've been pleasantly surprised at how accurate it is for what it is. The case damage is so consistent, I would suspect a tolerance issue when it was manufactured. Try sending it back.

Years ago, I bought a Savage model 14 in 7mm-08 that couldn't group better than 6" at 100 yds. I sent it back to the factory (actually, the LGS that I bought it from did), and Savage replaced the barrel. It came back shooting like a Savage!
 

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The first thing I would do is load one round in magazine and use magic marker line to denote top dead center. Cycle slide manually and see if you can determine what is causing the drag mark on case. Then do same thing only fire the round. If brass is getting beat up after firing it should have nothing to do with accuracy.
I have owned several LCPs and don’t have much experience with any problems. The only one I ever checked for accuracy was last one I owned with laser. It did pretty good, granddaughter is now toting it. The others had practical gut buster accuracy and that’s all I expected. In fact I did better just pointing them than aiming.
Im not a expert on plastic guns, not expert on CCW either. In my opinion Ruger LCP is the most practical & dependable CCW for the average person. It is small and light enough it will be carried.
Easy to operate and powerful enough for SD.
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My older LCP Custom is very accurate for what it is and my brass has not shown any deformity. My guess is that there is something wrong with your particular barrel. Is there any rifling in it or can you see something that is not right in the barrel? If this particular model was as inacurate as you say, it would be all over the internet by now. There is something that went wrong during manufacturing with this one gun. Or, like me, is it time for cataract surgery :LOL:. Sorry, couldn't resist. I'm one of the few that has had issues since my surgery back in January. I'm now seeing a retina specialist to see why one eye still has a small amount of swelling that won't go away - but even with that, I think I can still do better than the broad side of a barn 😉
 
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The first thing I would do is load one round in magazine and use magic marker line to denote top dead center. Cycle slide manually and see if you can determine what is causing the drag mark on case. Then do same thing only fire the round. If brass is getting beat up after firing it should have nothing to do with accuracy.
I have owned several LCPs and don’t have much experience with any problems. The only one I ever checked for accuracy was last one I owned with laser. It did pretty good, granddaughter is now toting it. The others had practical gut buster accuracy and that’s all I expected. In fact I did better just pointing them than aiming.
Im not a expert on plastic guns, not expert on CCW either. In my opinion Ruger LCP is the most practical & dependable CCW for the average person. It is small and light enough it will be carried.
Easy to operate and powerful enough for SD. View attachment 281827
Thank you for responding. I have an original LCP and it shot well. I got the new and improved version because it was new and improved.

My older LCP Custom is very accurate for what it is and my brass has not shown any deformity. My guess is that there is something wrong with your particular barrel. Is there any rifling in it or can you see something that is not right in the barrel? If this particular model was as inacurate as you say, it would be all over the internet by now. There is something that went wrong during manufacturing with this one gun. Or, like me, is it time for cataract surgery :LOL:. Sorry, couldn't resist. I'm one of the few that has had issues since my surgery back in January. I'm now seeing a retina specialist to see why one eye still has a small amount of swelling that won't go away - but even with that, I think I can still do better than the broad side of a barn 😉
Thank you for responding.
I am sure once RUGER gets my warranty note and they see the issue, they will want me to send the pistol back to them ASAP. It is definitely a manufacturing issue. I should have fired off a few HP while at the range to run different ammo through it. Nothing will get done through the holiday and lucky if anyone sees it all until Tuesday.
 
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