New to C&R - wish/want list

Discussion in 'Curio & Relics Forum' started by FlashBang, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. Dutchboy

    Dutchboy Member

    Jun 5, 2010
    To the best of my knowledge, the CZ 70 is NOT a C&R firearm, but it's listed as such in the original post of this thread. Has the CZ 70 recently been added to the C&R list by the BATF?
  2. FlashBang

    FlashBang Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    The CZ-70 is C&R now, you can buy one now from Wideners. :)
    They have it listed under 01 firearms but it is C&R and states so in the listing, just filed it wrong.

  3. FlashBang

    FlashBang Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    I have made a HUGE dent on my list and gotten a lot of what I wanted already. Of course when you find one you want and get it, you add something else to the list. LOL
    Here is what I got so far and where I got it at:

    H&R M1 Garand - local gun store
    Underwood M1 Carbine - Empire Arms
    Norinco Tokarev Type 54 - local gun store
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 round - Aim Sports
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 hex - local gun store
    Mosin Nagant M44 - Two Wright Arms Co.
    Mosin Nagant M38 - Empire Arms
    CZ-50 - Wideners
    CZ-52 - Czech Arms
    CZ-70 - Wideners
    CZ-82 - Classic Arms
    Yugo 59/66A1 - Wideners
    Yugo 24/47 - Samco
    Walther P1 - Classic Arms
    Yugo M57 Tokarev - Wideners
    Romanian TT Tokarev - Classic Arms
    Polish TT Tokarev - Classic Arms
    Polish Radom P64 - Classic Arms
    Mosin Nagant M53 Chinese - local gun store
    Swiss K31 - local gun store
    Mauser 98K - Samco
    Polish WZ48 - Centerfire Systems

    I've been really lucky so far and all of them are all matching SN's and in really good shape. Even the M53 is not bad and doesn't have the beaver chewed stock that most have.
    Last edited: Apr 28, 2012
  4. polishshooter

    polishshooter Well-Known Member

    Mar 25, 2001
    I'm not sure many Norincos are yet CR...Clinton kinda put the Kibash on Chinese imports, although I am now seeing Type 53s listed as CR when they were not too long ago when I bought mine.

    Yeah, I shoot .32 S&W long through my Nagants all the time. I am finding it harder and harder to find it at "8.99/50 lately though...

    Now it only gives me about 10" groups at 10 yds, but it is still pretty fun to shoot, and not as pricey as $28/50 Nagant ammo, and no fitting the acp cylinder...

    Gotta add a Makarov to the list though...

    East Germans are getting pricey, and I am hoping Bulgarians get listed as CR soon...

    But get a CZ82 double just might become your favorite carry gun...if you don't have a Russian or EG Makarov....

    I now have a Baikal Russian Makorov and a CZ82....but still end up carrying the Baikal, only because I like having 4 extra mags even if only 8 rounders and I only have two of the 12 round CZ82s...and the Makarov has Pierce grips and is a little thinner....

    The 9x18 Makarov round JHP gives up only 100 fps and 15 grains bullet weight to a full house 9mm Luger and is a helluva lot cheaper to shoot, the gun is a helluva lot smaller and as a blowback a helluva lot more reliable.
  5. FlashBang

    FlashBang Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    Thanks... the only Norinco Tok's that I am aware of being C&R are the Type 51 and the Type 54.

    Looking for a nice EG or Russian Mak, haven't found a good deal on one yet though. The only Bulgarian Mak that is C&R to my knowledge is the Circle 10 military.

    I've got the CZ82, love it.
  6. The Count

    The Count New Member

    May 29, 2010
    I have had my C&R license for about 3 years now. Let me know if I am wrong, but it appears that the ubiquitous guns from just those couple years back have kinda dried up and prices are rising. I still see a lot of Walther P1 and P38 but really nice CZ 52s? Or Yugo Tokarev in excellent condition? Bought both of those in like new condition for under two hundered. Now prices look like they are closing in on $300. What does this teach us? Buy more guns now! ;-)

    PS I am talking excellent condition, not good or very good.
    Last edited: May 12, 2012
  7. Lanrezac

    Lanrezac Well-Known Member

    Sep 18, 2011
    Milwaukee, WI
    If you don't mind a suggestion, I would get a Radom P-83 pistol instead of the P-64. To me the P-83 was more interesting because both the frame and the slide were largely made from heavy-gauge sheet steel stampings. Both are 9mm Makarov, but the P-83 is more pleasant to shoot because of its larger size, better trigger, and better sights.

    Just my $.02 - obviously, you like what you like.

    PS - I am glad to see you like the CZ 38. They are a unique design, if not a very successful one, and very well made, like most CZ products. They make an interesting comparison to the the British 38 Enfield revolver.
  8. Mauser88

    Mauser88 New Member

    Apr 22, 2011
    What no Luger or P-38??
  9. FlashBang

    FlashBang Member

    Mar 5, 2012
    Here is my updated list of what have in the collection:

    M1 H&R Garand
    M1 Underwood Carbine
    Norinco Tokarev Type 54
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 Round
    Mosin Nagant 91/30 Hex
    Mosin Nagant Russian M44
    Mosin Nagant Polish M44
    Mosin Nagant M38
    Hungarian M95 Steyr Mannlicher
    Czech CZ50
    Czech CZ52
    Czech CZ70
    Czech CZ82
    Yugoslav SKS 59/66A1
    Yugo 24/47
    Walther P1 no pin
    Walther P1 with pin
    Yugoslavia Tokarev M57
    Romanian TTC Tokarev
    Polish TTC Tokarev
    Polish Radom P64
    Chinese M53
    Finnish M39
    Swiss K31
    Polish WZ48
    Mauser 98K

    And of course my new "want" list:

    Norinco Tokarev Type 51
    CZ 24
    CZ 27
    CZ 38
    Yugo M48
    Walther P38
    Russian Tokarev TT33
    Star Model B
    Astra 600/43
    Finnish 28/30
    Swiss Model 1896/11
    Swedish M96
    Spanish Mauser M1916
    US Springfield M1903-A3
    Russian SVT-40

    Funny how when I get one off the list, 2 more get on... LOL
  10. Saunassa

    Saunassa New Member

    May 19, 2012
    With the yugo zastava m57 being c&r i wonder if the md70 32acp pistol is? It is the baby brother to the M57 and fun to shoot. Heck it even has the removable trigger/ hammer. assy
  11. gandog56

    gandog56 Member

    May 9, 2008
    Mobile AL.
    Add a Mosin Nagant 91/59 to your Mosins. It is my favorite and most accurate shooting of my 3 Mosin carbines.

    My favorite C&R pistol is my CZ82, but I just got in a Rommie Tok and a Walther P-38 I haven't shot yet.
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2012
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