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As the title states I'm completely new to handloading but am loving the learning. Just need some folks with experience to give me a warm fuzzy on my loadout.
I have .40 S&W Federal brass, Win231 powder, Berry's Plated bullets(flat nose/round shoulder) in 155gr on a Lee press with RCBS dies.
So far after much reading I have determined my initial 5-10 rounds should be:
5.1 grains of Win231
OAL of 1.125
Is this correct?

I also have some Berry's Plated Hollow points in 180gr..the Hodgdon site doesn't specify a load for these that I can see...they list 180gr but it says FP which I assume means Fully Plated...or does it mean something else? Would I be safe to use that load data of 4.4 grains in the plated hollow points?

I'm starting at the minimum loads to find out if they cycle my handguns correctly. These loads are for a Glock 27 and a SA XDm both in .40.

Thanks for reading and any insight..
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As the title states I'm completely new to handloading but am loving the learning. Just need some folks with experience to give me a warm fuzzy on my loadout.
I have .40 S&W Federal brass, Win231 powder, Berry's Plated bullets(flat nose/round shoulder) in 155gr on a Lee press with RCBS dies.
So far after much reading I have determined my initial 5-10 rounds should be:
5.1 grains of Win231
OAL of 1.125
Is this correct?

I also have some Berry's Plated Hollow points in 180gr..the Hodgdon site doesn't specify a load for these that I can see...they list 180gr but it says FP which I assume means Fully Plated...or does it mean something else? Would I be safe to use that load data of 4.4 grains in the plated hollow points?

I'm starting at the minimum loads to find out if they cycle my handguns correctly. These loads are for a Glock 27 and a SA XDm both in .40.

Thanks for reading and any insight..
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Looks good to me. I would drop the 4.4gr for the 180 a little though, maybe 4.1-4.2 and work up from there.

FP stands for Flat Point.
 

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Thanks Steve....I will drop the 180gr down to 4.1 and go from there. Prob won't get out shooting til the weekend but it's nice to have another opinion so I don't do something stupid.

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DON'T RELOAD GLOCK BRASS glocks are great hand guns but they do not fully house the brass in the chamber this causes a bulge in the brass when you resize it that bulge be comes a weak spot and there's a good chance the gun will blow up shooting the reloads I have seen 2 and heard about a lot more gun was trashed in all and one guy had to get 6 stitches in his hand
 

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DON'T RELOAD GLOCK BRASS glocks are great hand guns but they do not fully house the brass in the chamber this causes a bulge in the brass when you resize it that bulge be comes a weak spot and there's a good chance the gun will blow up shooting the reloads I have seen 2 and heard about a lot more gun was trashed in all and one guy had to get 6 stitches in his hand
Hmmm...I've reloaded thousands of rounds of Glock .40 cal brass over 10 years and have never had an issue. I inspect and measure each round and toss any that are deformed or don't meet the minimum measurements.
 

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Hmmm...I've reloaded thousands of rounds of Glock .40 cal brass over 10 years and have never had an issue. I inspect and measure each round and toss any that are deformed or don't meet the minimum measurements.
I know glock was for a long time saying no reloads I was told was due to the barrel does not like lead at all and what I posted above the 2 I seen pop was a 9 mm and a 40 people on a range the 9mm was my buddy he used my press to load the rounds and after it happen I broke down the rest of the shells all the powder was right and did some looking around and learned glock reloads was bad jewjew but if you can do it I have just been stuck in that mine set
 

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The Glock bulge is a valid concearn for 40 S&W reloaders. Glock 40 gen1&2 are responsible for the bulge due to an unsupported chamber. As with any brass from unknown source it needs to be handled a bit differently. The brass should be debulged before resizing. If you are shooting a gun with a fully supported chamber thats a big time savings for you, debulge once and dont worry about it. One reasonably priced answer for you 40 reloaders is the roll sized, once fired brass sold by precision delta. At $42/k delivered it will squash any worries of a bulged, pregnant or smiley face. www.precisiondelta.com
 

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I know glock was for a long time saying no reloads I was told was due to the barrel does not like lead at all and what I posted above the 2 I seen pop was a 9 mm and a 40 people on a range the 9mm was my buddy he used my press to load the rounds and after it happen I broke down the rest of the shells all the powder was right and did some looking around and learned glock reloads was bad jewjew but if you can do it I have just been stuck in that mine set
No problems, because you can't be too safe when reloading. As far as I know, every gun manufacturer says not to shoot reloads in their firearms, more from what I suspect is a liability standpoint than anything else. Glock also has said for people not to shoot lead through their barrels. Both have viable workarounds, and both can be done in factory Glock provided that appropriate caution is exercised.

The Glock bulge is a valid concearn for 40 S&W reloaders. Glock 40 gen1&2 are responsible for the bulge due to an unsupported chamber. As with any brass from unknown source it needs to be handled a bit differently. The brass should be debulged before resizing. If you are shooting a gun with a fully supported chamber thats a big time savings for you, debulge once and dont worry about it. One reasonably priced answer for you 40 reloaders is the roll sized, once fired brass sold by precision delta. At $42/k delivered it will squash any worries of a bulged, pregnant or smiley face. www.precisiondelta.com
Since my G23 is a Gen3, that could explain why I haven't seen the issue in mine.
 

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I've read about the bulge problem in the early Glocks....from what I can tell mine is a Gen3..however I'm assuming that some amount of bulge can still happen in an unsupported chamber. So, I can inspect my brass or shoot factory loads or drop in an aftermarket barrel.
Guess I'll fire a few off and check the brass to see where it winds up.

thanks for all the replies.

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No problems, because you can't be too safe when reloading. As far as I know, every gun manufacturer says not to shoot reloads in their firearms, ....
I have to ask, which ones? I have bought a ton of hand guns in my life, and I have yet to see a warning about shooting reloads in any of them except Glock.
 

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My Lyman 49th book says 5.0starting to 5.6 max load for 180 gr JHP with 231 powder.
Yeah I've got the same book, but those values were using Winchester/Nosler/Speer bullets...at least that's what it said they tested with.
I'm using the load data from the Hodgdon site that lists Berrys Bullets with the W231 powder....another reason to look at multiple sources I suppose.

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I have to ask, which ones? I have bought a ton of hand guns in my life, and I have yet to see a warning about shooting reloads in any of them except Glock.
I went back and looked at my Marlin and Remington manuals that I have handy at the moment, and you are correct. They don't state not to, but they have a lot of warnings about it. However, their warranties state that using handloaded ammo is not a covered repair.
 

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Berry's bullets says that you can load plated up to the mid range point of a Jacketd bullet of the same weight. My son and I loaded a Berry's 155gn FP with 5.5gns of Hodgdon Clays for an XD40 with good results. This was a starting load and it worked just fine.
 

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My Lyman 49th book says 5.0starting to 5.6 max load for 180 gr JHP with 231 powder.

Yes it does and Lyman data for the 40 S&W should be used with caution. If you look at the first page of their 40 data, you will see that Lyman used a universal receiver with a .401" groove diameter.

This is unusual as most all other data is tested with the proper .400" groove diameter. IMO, this is the reason for the inflated charge.
 
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