Obama came out of the closet

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by armedandsafe, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. GunnyGene

    GunnyGene New Member

    Oct 12, 2012

    And in the news today. Sort of a good news/bad news story? :

  2. langenc

    langenc Active Member

    Oct 23, 2009
    Montmorency Co, MI
    I dont believe yopur final analysis by any stretch of your imagination.

  3. steve4102

    steve4102 Former Guest

    Jan 27, 2006

    During the Romney Administration, no anti-Second Amendment or anti-sportsmen legislation made its way to the Governor’s desk.

    Governor Romney did sign five pro-Second Amendment/pro-sportsmen bills into law. His administration also worked with Gun Owners’ Action League and the Democratic leadership of the Massachusetts House and Senate to remove any anti-Second Amendment language from the Gang Violence bill passed in 2006. A summary of this legislation follows.

    This is a perfect example of don’t believe in titles. The bill was the greatest victory for gun owners since the passage of the gun control laws in 1998 (Chapter 180 of the Acts of 1998). It was a reform bill totally supported by GOAL. Press and media stories around the country got it completely wrong when claimed the bill was an extension of the “assault weapon” ban that had sunset at the federal level. They could not have been more wrong. Unfortunately for the Governor, someone had also wrongly briefed him about the bill. As a result the Lt. Governor and the Governor made statements at the bill signing ceremony that angered GOAL members. The following is what the bill actually did:

    1. Established the Firearm License Review Board (FLRB). The 1998 law created new criteria for disqualifying citizens for firearms licenses that included any misdemeanor punishable by more than two years even if no jail time was ever served.

    For instance, a first conviction of operating a motor vehicle under the influence would result in the loss of your ability to own a handgun for life and long guns for a minimum of five years. This Board is now able to review cases under limited circumstances to restore licenses to individuals who meet certain criteria.

    2. Mandated that a minimum of $50,000 of the licensing fees be used for the operation of the FLRB so that the Board would not cease operating under budget cuts.

    3. Extended the term of the state’s firearm licenses from 4 years to 6 years.

    4. Permanently attached the federal language concerning assault weapon exemptions in 18 USC 922 Appendix A to the Massachusetts assault weapons laws. This is the part that the media misrepresented.

    In 1998 the Massachusetts legislature passed its own assault weapons ban (MGL Chapter 140, Section 131M). This ban did not rely on the federal language and contained no sunset clause. Knowing that we did not have the votes in 2004 to get rid of the state law, we did not want to loose all of the federal exemptions that were not in the state law so this new bill was amended to include them.

    5. Re-instated a 90 day grace period for citizens who were trying to renew their firearm license. Over the past years, the government agencies in charge had fallen months behind in renewing licenses. At one point it was taking upwards of a year to renew a license. Under Massachusetts law, a citizen cannot have a firearm or ammunition in their home with an expired license.

    6. Mandated that law enforcement must issue a receipt for firearms that are confiscated due to an expired license. Prior to this law, no receipts were given for property confiscated which led to accusations of stolen or lost firearms after they were confiscated by police.

    7. Gave free license renewal for law enforcement officers who applied through their employing agency.

    8. Changed the size and style of a firearm license to that of a driver’s license so that it would fit in a normal wallet. The original license was 3” x 4”.

    9. Created stiffer penalties for armed home invaders.

  4. oldman45

    oldman45 New Member

    Jul 30, 2010
    Not trying to make any adversaries here, but some need to read the law that Romney signed while governor. It was fully supported by the NRA as well as having the NRA assist in the wording of the law. The gun owners of the State supported it.

    Had he not signed it, his veto would have been over ran in the Senate and it would not have been as good in content. He got the law passed to help gun owners.
  5. ShawnDow

    ShawnDow Member

    Jun 17, 2012
    South Lyon, Michigan
    I don't know about you... but none of my "black guns" are selective fire!
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault rifle
    Military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire. Light and portable, yet able to deliver a high volume of fire with reasonable accuracy at modern combat ranges of 1,000–1,600 ft (300–500 m), assault rifles have become the standard infantry weapon of modern armies. Their ease of handling makes them ideal for mobile assault troops crowded into personnel carriers or helicopters, as well as for guerrilla fighters engaged in jungle or urban warfare. Widely used assault rifles are the U.S. M16, the Soviet Kalashnikov (the AK-47 and modernized versions), the Belgian FAL and FNC, and the German G3.
  6. al45lc

    al45lc Active Member

    Mar 8, 2010
    colorful colorado
    The idea that Romney is a greater threat than Obama to our 2nd Amendment rights is absurd.
    The idea that ANYONE currently in FRONTLINE politics is a greater threat than Obama is also absurd.
    The Obama administration is THE greatest threat to our Constitution in our entire history.
    His record is the proof.
    Besides, Romney will have most of his time occupied with fixing all that the current idiot broke, He won't have time for piddly nonsense.
    To the intelligent Politico, guns are a non-issue at this juncture in our history, most Americans are deeply concerned about their next meal, making ends meet, keeping their homes and so on.
    Clinton warned Obama about the gun issue. Clinton may be an a*#hat, but he's smarter than Obama.
  7. graehaven

    graehaven Well-Known Member

    May 26, 2007
    Rochester, NY
    The semi-auto versions of those weapons are NOT assault weapons.

    An AR-15 that fires the 5.56 cartridge BUT ONLY DOES SO IN A SEMI-AUTO manner is NOT a military weapon either.

    NOT the same thing.

    That is only part of the issue.
  8. graehaven

    graehaven Well-Known Member

    May 26, 2007
    Rochester, NY
    The Patriot Act, the most UNCONSTITUTIONAL piece of legislation in recent history, was NOT promulgated or passed by the "Obama" administration. Let's not forget that the our supposed "friends," the Republicans, have gone quite FAR in selling out the American citizenry.

    And they continue to do so.
  9. RunningOnMT

    RunningOnMT New Member

    Nov 19, 2008
    Akron, Ohio
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