Obama to sell one time used shell casings

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  1. smokyhollowforge

    smokyhollowforge New Member

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    Anyone know if this is true or BS. I received a email that Obama wants to sell our spent ammo shells as scrap to Communist China. We used to sell it to gun ammo manufactures here in the USA to reload and sell to us. Georgia Arms is one who bought the used shells from DOD.
     
  2. walien

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    They should be sold to whoever pays more for them. That's the way a business should do it and the government should act the same way. The government shouldn't be subsidizing ammo. That's what people have jobs for.
     

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    From what I understand it will cost us the tax payer a lot more money now. DOD sells it in spent case form now to manufactures here in the USA. They will have to pay to have it shredded and then sell it for less per pound to china. So DOD does more work and gets paid less!!
    That's logical from the government point of view!!!
     
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    358 winchester New Member

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    When our government sell supplies to our enemy no matter what the profit it is wrong and that sir is the end of that story.

    smokyhollowforge, The surplus brass is not going to be shredded and resold it is going to go up in price but will be sold to companies like Georgia Arms
     
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    Here are two letters that were emailed to me yesterday. And yes I see they are dated from back in march 2009

    Dear Valued Customer:

    Please take a moment to note important changes set forth by the Defense Logistics Agency:

    Recently it has been determined that fired munitions of all calibers, shapes and sizes have been designated to be Demil code B. As a result and in conjunction with DLA's current Demil code B policy, this notice will serve as official notification which requires Scrap Venture (SV) to implement mutilation as a condition of sale for all sales of fired munitions effective immediately. This notice also requires SV to immediately cease delivery of any fired munitions that have been recently sold or on active term contracts, unless the material has been mutilated prior to sale or SV personnel can attest to the mutilation after delivery. A certificate of destruction is required in either case.

    Thank you,

    DOD Surplus
    15051 N Kierland Blvd # 300
    Scottsdale, AZ 85254



    March 12, 2009

    Larry Haynie
    Georgia Arms
    PO Box 238
    Villa Rica, GA 30180

    Re: Event 7084-6200:

    Dear Larry Haynie,

    Effective immediately DOD Surplus, LLC, will be implementing new requirements for mutilation of fired shell casings. The new DRMS requirement calls for DOD Surplus personnel to witness the mutilation of the property and sign the Certificate of Destruction. Mutilation of the property can be done at the DRMO, if permitted by the Government, or it may be mutilated at a site chosen by the buyer. Mutilation means that the property will be destroyed to the extent prevents its reuse or reconstruction. DOD Surplus personnel will determine when property has been sufficiently mutilated to meet the requirements of the Government.

    If you do not agree with the new conditions of your spot sale, please sign the appropriate box provided below stating that you do not agree to the new terms and would like to cancel your purchase effective immediately. If you do agree to the new terms please sign in the appropriate box provided below to acknowledge your understanding and agreement with the new requirements relating to your purchase. Fax the signed document back to (480) 367-1450, emailed responses are not acceptable.

    Please respond to this request no later than close of business Monday, March 16th, 2009.

    Sincerely,

    Government Liquidation.
     
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    Yeah, there was a change that was made and was quickly removed due to public outcry. People got on the phone and called their Congressmen & reps.


    Art
     
  8. walien

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    "When our government sell supplies to our enemy no matter what the profit it is wrong and that sir is the end of that story."

    Oh really? Ever shop at Walmart? More or less everything you buy there sends money to our enemy. Do you boycott such stores? Do you look down on people who shop there and other stores? Do you not buy Chinese goods? if you do, then by your own words, you're giving money to the enemy.

    The Chinese are perfectly capable of manufacturing rounds. What you should be worried about is the offshoring of manufacturing jobs in high tech areas of things like semi-conductors. Those jobs make a one way trip abroad and they take a lot of technology along with them.

    By the way, the Chinese have our Most Favorable Nation trading status, so they're not exactly an out and out enemy. I wouldn't exactly call them a friend...especially after W more or less let them keep the spy plane.

    "smokyhollowforge, The surplus brass is not going to be shredded and resold it is going to go up in price but will be sold to companies like Georgia Arms"

    The rounds should be sold to whoever pays more. I bought some of those rounds with my taxes.
     
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    Interesting. I wonder if boeing will sell the f-22 and the f-35's to the russians?
     
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    +1
    It took less than a week to get it corrected.
     
  11. walien

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    "Interesting. I wonder if boeing will sell the f-22 and the f-35's to the russians?"

    There's a rather big difference between a shell casing and an F-22. The price tags are quite a bit different. Things like military aircraft have to be ok'd before they can be sold to foreign nations.
     
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    Remember when Clinton was Prez? A traitor named Bernard Schwartz was President of Loral Space Systems, a satellite company. NASA was having Space Shuttle problems and couldn't launch several Loral satellites. Loral wanted to launch on Chinese rockets but the Chink rockets were not accurate and were blowing up. Loral taught the Chicoms how to make their missiles reliable and accurate. Know what the difference between a Chicom satellite launcher and a Chicom ICBM is? The color of the paint. So Loral helped the Chicoms move their ICBMs forward 25 years. The Justice Department was working on a case to send Bernie and his palls to prison for a long time. Now Bernie Schwartz was a big Democrat donor and Clinton supporter. So Prez. Clinton approved the technology transfer after the fact. Surprise! And the Pentagon wants to shred small arms brass lest it fall into the wrong hands.
     
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    Dad used to complain that a lot of the shells and bombs aimed at his ship in WWII came from American junk yards.