I typically respect Colt products but after hearing about all the problems some are having with the new Python - and watching a video (From Colt) about the problems I would NOT own one.What about the new manufactured Colt Python? They're supposed to be stronger/smoother than the originals.
I wasn't aware of that. I have to rethink my opinion of Colt I guess. What a slipshod way to solve an engineering problem.I typically respect Colt products but after hearing about all the problems some are having with the new Python - and watching a video (From Colt) about the problems I would NOT own one.
In short, the video described how the cylinder 'hand' is supported by the side plate and if the side plate becomes loose then problems may be experienced.
Their correction for this? and I quote, 'We are going to apply Loctite to the sideplate screws on all guns during assembly'.
Loctite on a $1500 + gun??
Agreed.. Manhurin MR73 has to be among the toughest... I have also heard if the rigorous testing they have done on them. They ship match grade accurate too.No doubt that would be the Manurhin MR 73, however finding one will be an issue, let alone finding an affordable one.
The factory guarantees the cylinder holds up to at least double the maximum .357 pressure and when they were in service with the French they were shot a lot without issue.
Some site state over 100K rounds without issue, but I have not verified it. (If even possible)
Why do you ask though and how much are you planning to shoot? I would just buy a S&W 686 and shoot it without worrying about it, I doubt you will shoot so much you wear it out. And even if you wear it out it's relatively cheap to replace. (Especially compared to the cost of the ammo you ran thru it)
While it's true that I'm a colt python fan...in fairness... The actual number of problem guns vs total Gus is 'acceptably' low. No one is perfect. Flaws exist in all products and get packaged and shipped. Some flaws like missing parts or 'DOA' are overcome by pre ship live fire testing...like Manhurin does.I wasn't aware of that. I have to rethink my opinion of Colt I guess. What a slipshod way to solve an engineering problem.
Agreed... A MR 73 will set you back about 2 vintage python or 3 new retail ones. :0A Manhurin 73 will probably set you back more than a vintage Python iirr.
I think they also have a model that the French Police used which shows up often used which is very similar to the Ruger Security Six. Didn't they also have 3" barrels?
If cost and time are not an issue, I suggest getting an S&W 500 mag and having the barrel and chambers sleeved for 357. Its durability would be unmatched.Gents, I'd like your thoughts on which of the various DA .357 Mag revolvers might be sturdiest, for holding up against steady diets of Magnum (and perhaps a bit more) level loads. This was a question posed during a recent gathering of fellow shooters, and I'd like a broader base of survey on the matter.
The "If y'need THAT much pow'r, git yerself a bigger GUN!" recommendation need NOT be revisited, here, as the discussion is MUCH more theoretical than practical. Any answer obtained from consensus will likely NOT see actual application.
The first choice that came to MY mind was a 6-shot Ruger Redhawk, but it fails the "available" test. I don't think very many were made nor sold, and I NEVER see them available in the used market.
I haven't measured the cylinder wall thickness on the 8-shot Redhawk, but I suspect they're quite strong, also. If cylinder wall thickness (CWT) on the GP-100, is greater, I might be inclined to vote for it.
N-frame S&W .357s in either trim are extremely tough. I've NEVER seen one loosen nor quit from the use of heavy loads before its owner (and their shooting hand) thought better of the idea.
I don't know much about the I-frame Colts (Python, ".357 Magnum", etc.), except that they were superbly made, on a frame that Colt originally used for larger bore cartridges, and are quite pleasant to shoot (SLOW FIRE). I've read, heard, and been told personally by people who should know, that steady diets of true magnum-level rounds will mess with the timing of these revolvers, before revolvers of other brands start to act up. Not having exhaustively shot a dozen revolvers from each manufacturer, I don't KNOW this to be the case, but I find it far from implausible.
Your thoughts, please?