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please help me with dates Iver Johnson and US revolver co

Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by goncrzy, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. goncrzy

    goncrzy New Member

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    I have two guns will attach pics. US Revolver Co serial number I0071 i think.
    Iver Johnsons Arms Cycle Works serial number Q84003.Found these in family ceder chest. I was wanting to know the year manufactured and if worth anything besides family history.
    Thank you for your time and help.
    Brenda

    link to pics
    http://picasaweb.google.com/goncrzy/IverJohnson?feat=directlink

    had trouble uploading pics hope this works sorry
     

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  2. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    i can not call up individual pictures from your link. try posting some pictures directly to this site. more info need on the u.s.revolver co.

    "Q" letter code used in 1906 on
    SECOND MODEL SAFETY AUTOMATIC HAMMER REVOLVER
    (Black Powder Cartridges)------------1896-1908
    LARGE FRAME AND SMALL FRAME VERSIONS USES HAMMER THE HAMMER ACTION: Double top post barrel latch, nickel finish standard, blue optional, hard rubber grip panels with Owls head at top. Hammer the Hammer action, two frame sizes, and three calibers. Standard barrel length: small frame 3 inches, large frame 3 ¼ inches; Calibers: small frame .22 rimfire 7 rounds cylinder capacity, .32 centerfire 5 rounds cylinder capacity, large frame .38 centerfire 5 rounds cylinder capacity; Weight: small frame with 3 inch barrel .22 rimfire 12 ounces, .32 centerfire 12 ¼ ounces, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 17¼ ounces; Frame height: small frame 3 ¼ inches, large frame 3 7/8 inches; Frame length: small frame 4 3/26 inches, large frame 5 inches; Overall length: small frame with 3 inch barrel 6 3/8 inches, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 7 3/8 inches. Only difference between the first and second model is the barrel latch. Main serial number location on left side of grip frame grips must be removed to see. The Second Model features a double top post barrel latch, flat leaf hammer spring and two cross pins in the lower frame.
    VALUE: 100%=$275 60%=$135
    For revolvers equipped with Bourne Knuckleduster add 100%

    bill
     

  3. goncrzy

    goncrzy New Member

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    ok got it this time had to resize to get them to take thank you again for the info.put pics in last post as well as this new reply.
    Thank You,
    Brenda
     

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  4. b.goforth

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    the only change for the safety automatic hammer revolver is the condition is less than the 60%, more likely about 40% which would drop the value to about $100.

    the U.S. Revolver Co. Hammerless Automatic appears to be a small frame 32 S&W caliber and about 60% condition. serial number 10071 was manufactured in 1910.

    U.S. REVOLVER CO. AUTOMATIC HAMMERLESS-------------------1910-1935
    LARGE FRAME AND SMALL FRAME DOES NOT HAVE HAMMER THE HAMMER ACTION; Brand name revolver manufactured by Iver Johnson’s Arms & Cycle Works for the wholesale trade. This revolver does not have Hammer the Hammer action, but it does have a rebounding hammer that the hammer version does not. Blue or nickel finishes were offered. Offered in two frame sizes and two calibers only. Standard barrel length: small frame 3 inches, large frame 3 ¼ inches; Calibers: small frame .32 centerfire with 5 rounds cylinder capacity, large frame .38 centerfire with 5 rounds cylinder capacity; Weight: small frame with 3 inch barrel 12 ½ ounces, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 18 ounces; Height: small frame 3 ¾ inches, large frame 3 7/8 inches; Frame length: small frame 4 3/16 inches, large frame 5 inches: Overall length: small frame with 3 inch barrel 6 3/8 inches, large frame with 3 ¼ inch barrel 7 3/8 inches. . Main serial number location on left side of grip frame grips must be removed to see.
    VALUE: 100%=$225 60%=$105

    if a qualified person deems these revolvers shootable the U.S. would be ok with modern ammo but the iver johnson would not. do not fire the U.S. Revolver Co. hammerless with out having it checked out by a qulified person.

    bill
     
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    How old is an Iver Johnson Large frame.38 with serial number under the left grip: Q26190? On the bottom of the grip is Pat. June 16 96 Aug 25 93. On the bottom of the trigger guard are the numbers 26 190.
     
  6. b.goforth

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    iver johnson safety automatic hammer revolver serial number Q 26190 was manufactured in 1906. please see the information given above for more details.
    bill