Questions for Mr. Goforth, HS and H&R

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  1. bender

    bender New Member

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    I am looking for the DOM for two handguns I bought about 40 years ago. The first is High Standard Model B, Serial Number 13277. The other is an H&R 999, Serial Number D29240.
    Many thanks for your help.
     
  2. trickyrick

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    according to "high standard automatic pistols 1932-1950" by charles petty. it was made in 1936.
     

  3. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    according to the serial number series H&R started in 1940, D=1943, but this is the one year few if any civilian handguns were made. most likely this is one of the early M999's when the D letter code was used to denote a double action, during this time H&R also used S letter code to denote the M199 single action sportsman.

    SPORTSMAN DOUBLE ACTION MODEL 999
    LARGE FRAME TOP BREAK . ----------------------------1932-1952
    Large frame double action top break revolver; Caliber 22 rimfire (short, long & long rifle) cylinder capacity 9 rounds, 22 Winchester Rim Fire (WRF) cylinder capacity 7 rounds; Safety rim cylinder; blue finish only; barrel length 6 inches (ribbed); Automatic cylinder stop; Sights: rear adjustable for windage only, Three different front sights used, full Blade, Partridge type & Partridge type pinned to barrel top rib, all non-adjustable; Finger rest trigger guard; One piece oversized checkered Walnut grips (birds head grip frame shape, Rice frame); frame mounted firing pin, hammer face is flat. Cylinder release is long pivoting lever on right side of frame (there are two different version of this). Serial numbered in its own series from 01 up to at least 89761 by the end of 1939. Starting in 1940 letter codes were used.
    Early production until about 1933 the letter code ā€œDā€ was used to denote double action
    First Variation; round heavy weight ribbed barrel with Blade non-adjustable front sight ----1932- to before April 18,1933
    Second Variation; adjustable front sight-----1933 (after 4-18-1933)-
    Third Variation; firing pin moved to hammer----------------1934
    Fourth Variation; three inch barrel was offered--------------1935
    Fifth Variation; two patent dates marked on cylinder (before there was only one)----1936 (after 3-17)-1937
    Sixth Variation; top of barrel markings moved to right side of barrel-----1937-1939
    Seventh Variation; 22 WFR caliber dropped, 3 inch barrel dropped------1940-1941
    Eight Variation; one piece over size plastic grips are standard, limited production during WWII years---1942-1952
    VALUE: 100%=$425 60%=$195 Add 15% premium for 1st Variation; %0% for 22WRF caliber; 30% for 3ā€ barrel (scarce)

    the Model 999 continued to be made until original H&R co. went out of business in 1986 and after that by H&R1871/NEF until 1999.
    bill
     
  4. SGVictor

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    High Standard Model B S/N 13,277 shipped to Schwabaker Hardware Co. on 6/15/1936

    John Stimson
    www.histandard.info
     
  5. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    john,
    i have a early model B i was thing about asking if you had information on. serial number 15524. early reblue that was polished badly (missing some of the slide markings so it is a shooter. original magazine and it does shoot very well after i tuned the magazine and relaced some springs.
    bill
     
  6. SGVictor

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    Hello Bill,

    15,524 shipped 8/28/1936 to H & D Folsom Arms Co.

    What is the barrel length of this Model B? The factory records of that era do not porvide that information.
     
  7. bender

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    Thanks to Trickyrick, bgoforth and SGVictor for the information, much appreciated.
     
  8. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

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    john,
    don't have percise measureing at hand but a household ruler (divided into 32nds) show muzzle to front of slide as 6 5/8 inches. i have had this high standard since before i worked at the houston company. originally had some proplems with feeding but after i reworked in in the late 1990's no more problems.

    thanks for the information.

    bill
     
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