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I have not received by Hornady reloading book yet so I am posting to see if someone could look up and give me the information. I have found a site with the some information but want to make sure it is correct before moving on. I will be using a Hornady 230 gr. 45 ACP FMJ-RN, Titegroup powder and CCI 300 primers, I believe my OAL from dummy rounds is around 1.260 firing out of a 1911 45 auto 5" barrel. I have the following and would like the min and max grains, OAL (which varies between weapons). I also have some Speer 230gr, TMJ-RN. I will be using for plinking and work up a good load for accuracy.

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My Lyman book doesn't show anything for Titegroup with that bullet size at all. It does show titegroup w ith 225gr and 1.272"oal with a max load of 5.1. Some other powders were also 5.1, 5.4 with a 230gr bullet.
 

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According to the Hornady 7th edition, you're .030 longer than they suggest. If it fits your mag, feeds and ejects..... give it try.

I don't normally post powder weights because I don't want to be responsible for typos or misreadings but I do have my manual in front of me. It shows 4.3 gr. starting and 5.2 gr. max. DOUBLE CHECK IT!!

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Thanks for the information, I will recheck my OAl I could be off but doing the plunk test it worked, may have read my calipers wrong when posting. I am getting from 4.2 to 5.2 from others so at least I know I am in the ball park.
 

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YEs 4.8 is max for 230 gr bullet using titegroup in .45ACP. I recommend 4.5 and stay with it. Its one of my favorite loads.
 

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That depends on where you get your data.

Hornady says 5.2gr is max for 230gr FMJ.

Attached is the page straight out of my Hornady 7th edition.

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Yup, that's where the numbers I posted came from..
Tested in a Colt Gov't Model, 5" barrel, 1 in 16" twist.
 

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I get my data from Hodgdon, since hodgdon makes titegroup, I figure its the best place to get data. 4.5 gr under a 230 gr lead bullet is giving me 820 fps, so I figure its more than good.
 

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And I posted the Hornady info because the OP asked about a specific bullet. When I load with Hornady, Nosler, Speer, Barnes or Sierra, I prefer to use their data.
 
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I take them all in and just find one that is close to the middle and go for it. I don't like that hodgdon doesn't tell you what they tested the load in. Was it a universal reciever or was it an actual pistol. I have also found that hodgdon is always on the lighter side of of the bell curve for load data.

I am not saying I am right and JLA is wrong. This is just something we as handloaders deal with all the time. If you look at Sierra's load for a 165gr in a 30-06 it will be different than a 165gr Nosler or Hornady bullet of roughly the same build.

This is where having more than one source for load data is a big plus. I mainly do this, I find the lowest low and the highest high and I split the difference for the powder. Then check to make sure it is not over or under any min or max. I have hit both before and had to adjust my loads. I haven't blown anything up yet.
 

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I don't like that hodgdon doesn't tell you what they tested the load in. Was it a universal reciever or was it an actual pistol. I have also found that hodgdon is always on the lighter side of of the bell curve for load data.

Hodgdon always uses a lab pressure test barrel for their data.
Like you, I do wish they would mention that on their manual site just so folks know. I have suggested that during some of my correspondence with them a couple of times.

That is one reason why their charges are typically lower than most of the bullet maker's manuals. A test chamber will be built to the minimum extreme dimensions of the cartridge's specs (SAAMI or whatever) so pressures will spike higher/faster for a given velocity compared to a max-spec or loose chamber.


I agree with ya. Multiple data sources are a good thing to use.
I generally try to start with bullet maker specific data first, then I'll cross ref back against the powder maker's sites. Don't ask me why I prioritize bullets over powder...that's just how I learned many years ago.
 
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