REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR.....

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  1. rooter

    rooter *VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff* Supporting Member

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    ON THIS DAY
    On Dec. 7, 1941, Japanese warplanes attacked the home base of the U.S. Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor in Hawaii, drawing the United States into World War II. More than 2,300 Americans were killed.
    Here and now, these many years later, most of the participants are gone....just thru aging
    and other natural causes, few of us remember...These days the Japanese even are associated
    with joint, military planning by the causes of stirrings from North Korea. I was then an 8
    year old boy living in the tiny town of Dundee Iowa...A welfare provided home for the large
    family with no electricity or form of communication. The local telephone operator, often seen
    now depicted on the old TV show, THE WALTON FAMILY, would call out news from her back
    porch and busy bodies ladies as my own mother was would spread the news...The Murphy's
    who run the local tavern there in town had their son Ross killed at Pearl Harbor but that tragic
    news was not forthcoming for days it seemed....Chief
     
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  2. rooter

    rooter *VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff* Supporting Member

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    Thursday 7 December 1999

    Thursday morning--Glendale, Arizona--kids on the
    street
    where I live, waiting for the school bus to
    come pick
    them up for school. This neighborhood is about
    twenty
    years old--the last generation of kids
    including my
    grandsons have grown and moved on--a new
    generation of
    children now--life goes on. I went out and
    placed the
    flag in the hanger on my house--there was no
    breeze--it
    just hung open, unmoving. One of the
    children--there were
    about seven boys and girls--a boy called out
    and asked
    what today was--what the flag was for. They
    were all
    right at the end of my drive--so I walked over
    to them.
    "Today is Pearl Harbor Day", I explained
    "it's a day for older folks like us to remember

    because it was the start of a horrible war for
    our
    country--don't you know about it from your
    school"?
    There seemed to be a simultanous shaking of
    heads--one
    girl piped up that her Dad and Mom had gone to
    Pearl
    Harbor for their second honeymoon--one boy
    turned and
    scornfully remarked "WHO CARES CINDY...", and turned
    back to
    me as if questing for more information. I had
    plenty of
    time--hey, I had a captive audience. I went on
    to explain
    that the Japanese attacked the U.S. Navy
    Pacific Fleet on
    this date in 1941 at Pearl Harbor--the USS
    Arizona had
    been sunk with the heavy loss of life--that
    here in
    Arizona that date meant more maybe than other
    places--and
    that I had only been eight years old but how
    well I
    remembered it for many of the older boys from
    my Iowa
    school went into the service before
    Christmas--many never
    to return--killed in the service of their
    country--so
    very respectfully they listened--eyes like
    dinner
    plates--mouths agape--I suggested they tune
    into
    televisions HISTORY CHANNEL if it wasn't
    tought about
    those events in their schools. "What happened",

    one the boys asked and I explained that many
    thought it
    was a war for the survival of our country
    --that we were
    also fighting Germany and Italay--that really
    garnered
    attention. "It was the World War #2--millions
    perished--millions more effected somehow by
    it's
    evil"-----. The yellow school bus appeared
    with the
    warning lights flashing--the children didn't
    seem to rush
    off--in fact it seemed as if they were
    undecided to leave
    or not--as if they wanted me to tell them
    more--the bus
    waited in the middle of the street--several
    cars waited
    in back--a couple in the front--waited for the
    kids to
    board the bus. Finally they turned and headed
    toward the
    bus--I called out to them to look in on the
    HISTORY
    CHANNEL-- to look for those titled VICTORY AT
    SEA--"they've always been my favorites", I told

    them. Is it true that the schools are curtailed
    from
    teaching about WW II--how can that be--I still
    recall
    being taught about the Battle of Hastings in
    1066--between the French and the English---a
    continent
    away--can there be such a thing as sorting out
    priorities? JW
     

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    Glad you got to tell them about it. They probably learned something more valuable from you in those few minutes' conversation than they'll learn all week at school.

    Thanks for telling us about it, and thanks for telling those kids.
     
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    Have any of you served at that base or visited?

    It is something to behold. The Navy is very respectful. I was tearing up and I wasn't even born until 1960!
     
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    When my wife and I went to visit our daughter in Maui in 2010, we spent a day at Pearl Harbor. It is a somber sight to see. It is hard to believe that oil is still bubbling out of the Arizona after 76 years.
     
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    Been there a number of times. I was stationed TAD at MAS Kaneohe on several occasions and had many opportunities for visits both official and recreational.

    If you can ever be there when any Navy vessel comes in to the harbor, the sight of the crew in their dress uniforms manning the rail at attention as they pass the Arizona is a very moving experience. Here is the Abraham Lincoln entering Pearl in 2011:

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    One of the very cool things at Pearl now is the Missouri now stands guard over the Arizona. After you visit the Arizona Memorial and museum, a tour of the Mighty Mo is a must do. It's also very symbolic that the war with Japan started at Pearl and was officially ended on the deck of the Missouri.
     
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    My Flags have been flying at Half Mast today. I volunteered to lay the Memorial Christmas Wreath for Wreaths Across America Day at our local Veterans Memorial Park. I will be laying the wreath at the base of the US Navy Flag.
     
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    And a few hours after the Pearl Harbor attack, the Japs attacked Wake Island. The Marines and civilian contractors fought well, but the Navy nixed sending in reinforcements and risking more ships, so the Wake Island Defenders eventually had to surrender. 97 civilians were lined up and machinegunned on the beach. The Marines were sent to China to a work camp. Many died, worked to death.
     
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    All hands not on duty had to be in dress uniform, manning the rails, when passing the Arizona. While on liberty, I visited. Wish the Mo. had been there, never been aboard a battle ship.
     
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    Kind Sir, I appreciate encouragement like that for I often think I 'hog' the postings too
    much. Chief
     
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    I got to tour the Missouri twice.
    Once in Bremerton, once in Hawaii.
    They had a lot more open to the public when it was parked in Bremerton, WA back in the 80's. It was recommissioned for GW1, then retired to Pearl Harbor.
     
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    Side Note: 2 younger Japanese tourists were jabbering on, laughing and joking (in japanese) when our boat arrived at the monument. (They warn you not to do this in the auditorium before they take you over on the boat!)

    One of the Navy All-Whites boatswainsmen immediately squashed that by standing in front of them and giving them the low down on being respectful. I never seen two people shut up faster in my life!
    God Bless America!
     

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    Just secured from detail, heading out to sea, garbage ready to be thrown over.
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    Many times in my naval career I would transit thru Hawaii, on to other duty stations such as
    my latter ones, Vietnam...My wife and I visited Hawaii in the late 90's and visited the Arizona
    Memorial, the sunken USS ARIZONA...We both spoke of the moods we experienced on the
    tour and the seeming abundance of gloom and silence from the tour groups, even those of
    obvious Japanese appearance...Chief
     
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    No problem, i can't speak Japanese.
     
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