Remember when? or old times were better..

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    teehee1
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    Hard to Believe

    Looking back now, it's hard to believe that we have lived as long as we
    have with all the dangers we were surrounded by while growing up in the
    last few decades.

    My Mom used to cut chicken, chop eggs and spread mayo on the same
    cutting board with the same knife and no bleach, but we didn't seem to
    get food poisoning. And Mom used to defrost hamburger on the counter
    AND I used to eat it raw sometimes too, but I can't remember getting
    E-coli.

    As children we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.
    Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always a special
    treat.

    Our baby cribs, toys and rooms were painted with bright colored lead
    based paint. We often chewed on the crib, ingesting the paint. We had
    no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors, or cabinets, and when we
    rode our bikes we had no helmets.

    We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. We would
    leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back
    when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach us all day. We
    played dodge ball and sometimes the ball would really hurt.

    We played with toy guns, cowboys and Indians, army, cops and robbers,
    and used our fingers to simulate guns when the toy ones or my BB gun
    was not available.

    We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank sugar soda, but we were
    never overweight; we were always outside playing.

    Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who
    didn't, had to learn to deal with disappointment. Some students weren't
    as smart as others or didn't work hard so they failed a grade and were
    held back to repeat the same grade. That generation produced some of
    the greatest risk-takers and problem solvers. We had the freedom,
    failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it
    all.

    Almost all of us would have rather gone swimming in the lake instead of
    a pristine pool (talk about boring), the term "cell phone" would have
    conjured up a phone in a jail cell, and a pager was the school PA
    system.

    We all took gym, not PE... and risked permanent injury with a pair of
    high top Keds (only worn in gym) instead of having cross-training
    athletic shoes with air cushion soles and built in light reflectors. I
    can't recall any injuries but they must have happened because they all
    tell us how much safer we are now!

    Flunking gym was not an option... even for stupid kids! I guess PE
    must be much harder than gym.

    Every year, someone taught the whole school a lesson by running in the
    halls with leather soles on linoleum tile and hitting the wet spot. How
    much better off would we be today if we only knew we could have sued
    the school system.

    Speaking of school, we all said prayers and the pledge and staying in
    detention after school caught all sorts of negative attention for about
    the next two weeks. We must have had horribly damaged psyches.

    I can't understand it. Schools didn't offer 14 year olds an abortion
    or condoms (we wouldn't have known what either was anyway) but they did
    give us a couple of baby aspirin and cough syrup if we started getting
    the sniffles. What an archaic health system we had then. Remember
    school nurses? Ours wore a hat and everything.

    I thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was
    allowed to be proud of myself. I just can't recall how bored we had to
    have been without computers, PlayStation, Nintendo, X-box or 270
    digital cable stations.

    I must be repressing that memory as I try to rationalize through the
    denial of the dangers could have befallen us as we trekked off each day
    about a mile down the road to some guy's vacant lot, built forts out of
    branches and pieces of plywood, made trails, and fought over who got to
    be the Lone Ranger. What was that property owner thinking, letting us
    play on that lot? He should have been locked up for not putting up a
    fence around the property, complete with a self-closing gate and an
    infrared intruder alarm.

    Oh yeah... and where was the Benadryl and sterilization kit when I got
    that bee sting? I could have been killed!

    We played king of the hill on piles of gravel left on vacant
    construction sites and when we got hurt, Mom pulled out the 48 cent
    bottle of mercurochrome and then we got our butt spanked. Now it's a
    trip to the emergency room, followed by a 10-day dose of a $49 bottle
    of antibiotics and then Mom calls the attorney to sue the contractor
    for leaving a horribly vicious pile of gravel where it was such a
    threat.

    We didn't act up at the neighbor's house either because if we did, we
    got our butt spanked (physical abuse) here too ... and then we got butt
    spanked again when we got home.

    Mom invited the door to door salesman inside for coffee, kids choked
    down the dust from the gravel driveway while playing with Tonka trucks
    I remember why Tonka trucks were made tough...(it wasn't so that they
    could take the rough berber in the family room), and Dad drove a car
    without built-in children's seats too.

    Our music had to be left inside when we went out to play and I am sure
    that I nearly exhausted my imagination a couple of times when we went
    on two week vacations.

    I should probably sue the folks now for the danger they put us in when
    we all slept in campgrounds in the family tent.

    Summers were spent behind the push lawnmower and I didn't even know
    that mowers came with motors until I was 13 and we got one without an
    automatic blade-stop or an auto-drive.

    How sick were my parents?

    Of course my parents weren't the only psychos. I recall Carol Hammer
    from next door coming over and doing her tricks on the front stoop just
    before she fell off. Little did her Mom know that she could have owned
    our house. Instead she picked her up and swatted her for being such a
    goof.

    It was a neighborhood run amuck. To top it off, not a single person I
    knew had ever been told that they were from a dysfunctional family. How
    could we possibly have known that we needed to get into group therapy
    and anger management classes?

    How did we EVER survive?
    "Life is not:easy, fair or cheap... sometimes bad things happen to good people"


    armedandsafe
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    Ah, yes,,,,the days we just barely survived. Wandering off to the desert of Southern Nevada with a 22, a dog and a sleeping bag. The rule was I had to be back in time on Sunday evening to get ready for school. I had to carry enough water for the dog. I was in first grade when that started.

    Used to have Dad drop me at the front door of the high school, so I wouldn't have to lug the shotgun all the way through the halls to the office, where the gun rack was. Put shell vest in my locker.

    How did we ever survive?

    Armed and Safe - not just a theory


    teehee1
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    GUNRACK.. HIGH SCHOOL.. On what Planet???
    "Life is not:easy, fair or cheap... sometimes bad things happen to good people"


    AGunguy
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    Yes, I've heard of such things in certain pro gun states. Nice wasn't it.

    Gunguy


    warpig883
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    We did not have a gunrack but we could put them in a corner in the principals office. It is still ok to bring them to school the kids just leave them in the gunrack in the pickup. This happens mostly during pheasant season.

    Ignorance is a crime in 49 states. In the other one it is bliss.

    Edited by: warpig883 at: 2/3/03 11:52:32 pm


    ysacres
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    Yes, those were the good ol days. At age 9, My mother would bring back a brick of 22 lr from town and I would take the gun out all day and plink at whatever, the only rule was I had to be back at dark and heaven forbid if you put a hole in the barn roof. Now my son has to go through firearm safety, (good thing) can't take the gun without an adult until age 16, cant have a handgun until 21 can't do this, can't do that. It bothers me that I had all the fun as a child, something my son never got to experience.

    Good post TeeHee1


    Zigzag2
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    Yeah, (age 9-10) I remember spending hours on end feeling like I was on a great safari hunt with my daisy cub in hand, and tracking through the woods.

    I also remember(age 12) it being a treat to go to K-Mart on Friday nights with a friend of mine (while his Dad bought groceries), and check out the same rifles and shotguns. Needless to say we'd stock up on our 49cent boxes of 22 bullets.

    Sounds like the stuff that would make some great story telling around the campfire.

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    procrastinator43
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    Excellent post! I remember it all except I did not eat raw hamgurger


    Smoky14
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    I took my .22 to school and put it in my locker so I could go shoot rats at the city dump.

    The dump workers loved it as it cut down on the population of rats and they trusted the fact that I could handle the gun.

    And that my friends was in OHIO....obviously a LONG time ago.

    Times change but not always for the better.

    Smoky the ancient


    stan741
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    Yes I remember doing all of that.I also remember jumping up on the back of mule drawn wagons to ride when the yard man came through the neighborhood.We didn't have K-Mart or Wal-Mart.We had Woolworth's and Kresse's dime stores.We had Economy Auto Stores and Western Auto stores with the racks of new guns to drool over.
    Saturday mornings mother gave us our 25 cent weekly allowance which we promptly went and spent at the Saturday morning movies.10 cents to get in,5 cents each for a candy bar,a coke and a bag of popcorn.2 movies,four serials and four cartoons.
    I don't remember pedophiles back then.We played where we wanted unless we got chased off which was rare.We stole apples from trees.We did not know what ridalin was.If you could not concentrate you were dumb not chemically imbalanced.We smoked rabbit tobacco wrapped in brown paper.We walked the railroad trestle over the river with a careful eye for trains.Good memories.I'm sure the children of today will look back as we do and wonder how the world changed so much.
    The more I listen, the more I hear......and vice versa.


    Shizamus
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    So, where did it all start going wrong ?

    PERCEPTION IS REALITY !

    Listen to real talk radio : www.gcnlive.com


    cointoss 2
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    That Shizamus is the

    $64,000 ?
    cointoss2


    armedandsafe
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    It started in the '50s, when the generation who saw WWII and Korea were so disgusted, they tried to raise their children with half of the Friends' non-violence precept. Because Hollywood and popular writers always emphasized John Fox's idea of "Thou shall cause no harm," and never mentioned the rest of his statement, "...neither shall thou allow harm," there were alot of pretty twisted ideas floating about. These ideas (no corporal punishment of kids, no "stunting" limits on kids, no structures "limiting" kids, etc.) in turn, raised another generation of VietNam era kids who worked hard at finishing the job of weakening the concept of responsibility and destroying the will to resist tyranny of the average person.

    That is my theory, and it is probably worth what you paid for it.

    Armed and Safe - not just a theory


    shooter22
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    Television

    Hey, Bin Laden, our women can kick you butt!


    whiteclouder
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    Working mothers.

    Clouder..


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    Ms Beast
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    I don't think it all comes down to working mothers, it is a lot of different things together. In most families both parents have to work just to get by. Both of my parents worked and I'm still alive........I think! I didn't have 200,000,000 different channels to watch or any of the games to play so I spent time outside. Now when my kids go outside to skateboard or walk around town, the police tell them to find a parking lot to skate in or question them about loitering. When they go a parking lot to skate, a different cop comes and tells them they can't be there. What do they do then, come in a play games! They get in trouble by being outside


    1952Sniper
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    It started when Hollywood went liberal and started spouting their liberal filth on the silver screen. That liberal filth wormed its way into family programming and the news media, and spread like a plague.

    It has been compouned by the liberal move to drive God out of schools.
    Macht kaputt, was euch kaputt macht!


    tuckerd1
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    McCarthy had it right and nobody would listen.


    stan741
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    Who was it/Waylon Jennings?
    "Oh we're going down hill like a snowball going to hell.
    With no thought at all for the flag or the libery bell.

    When a Ford or A Chevy still lasted ten years like they should...
    Back when a woman still cooked and still would..."

    Heck,we aren't saying anything Willie or Waylon didn't say 20 years ago.

    The more I listen, the more I hear......and vice versa.


    Bob In St Louis
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    Back in the 1940s, the high school where my Father went required the boys to complete a project in shop class for a grade. The options were to do a wood working project, a metal machine project, or a drafting design. My Father chose to build a handgun. His project was approved by the teacher, dad built it, and he got a B grade (his finish wasn't too good). This school district is located in St. Louis County.

    In the late 1960s I attended the very same high school. If you even mentioned a firearm, you were expelled.


    IShootBack
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    Great post. Brought back memories long forgotten.
    My kids think I'm crazy when I tell them of the days when I was young. Imagine what they will be telling their kids in 20 or 30 years? Sad that a great way of life is changing.
    ISB
    Guns cause crime, like spoons made Rosie fat
     
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