Sled or No?

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  1. cannonman

    cannonman Active Member

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    I bought a 65CM Bergara, way back when the .308 folks thought I was nuts. It was an entry level and since I've graduated to a custom job by Rainier. Working up loads I followed the steps of a guy whom I really respect. He has a shooting pedigree that fills a room. At lest 5 AI's he's customized to his liking. Anyway, when posting a field test of my loads and the targets, he commented that the first thing I should do is take the gun out of the sled. I guess the idea is you can create more problems with the sled than you correct. Thoughts?
     
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  2. gdmoody

    gdmoody Full Time Moderator Moderator Supporting Member

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    Sled? You skiing or something?;)
     
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  3. howlnmad

    howlnmad Old Guy Doing Things Moderator Supporting Member

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    I thought maybe he was going to do up an old '50 Merc :D.
     
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    rcairflr Well-Known Member

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    IMO the easiest and very accurate way to check loads is to use a front and rear shooting bag. Make sure the stock sits in the same location on the foreward bag every shot and try to put the same hand pressure every time on the stock.
    I've tried a shooting sled before and hated it
     
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    howlnmad Old Guy Doing Things Moderator Supporting Member

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    Okay, back on course. While the shooting rest may add problems, it's my opinion that it takes a lot of human error out of the equation.
    Just my :twocents:. Ya get what ya pay for.
     
  6. Smoke

    Smoke Well-Known Member

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    A sled just takes the human out of the equation & lets the gun do what it is setup to do. Holding the gun in your hands could have something different happen every shot.
     
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  7. gdmoody

    gdmoody Full Time Moderator Moderator Supporting Member

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    Oh, a Lead Sled - that I understand. I have one that I only use when I am sighting in a rifle.
     
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  8. cannonman

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    Ok, OK.... I think Eye got it!.... Now if I can find that emoji of it banging it's head against a … lead sled?!?! I should find a pic of the set up. I think it's pretty nice. I made some custom lead weights at about 30# ea. but with a 6.5CM I found no real use for them. My 300 Win Mag? Well I guess but Even after glass bedding it, polishing up the trigger and making a really nice muzzle break for it, I hated everything about it other than looking at it. It never shot better than 3MOA. That's enough off topic. I guess I'll start over and see which gives the best results. Fun comments. thanks guys. Oh, the 7 Ultra Mag? that was a pleasure to shoot. No Idea what I did different. But I sold that one also. No use here in TN.
     
  9. LIKTOSHOOT

    LIKTOSHOOT No Power Options Supporting Member

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    All rifles we built were tuned on a remote sled-no touch. Then its up to the end user.
     
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    I use a sled to see what my loads are capable of-not me,as I'm not touching the rifle.If I'm getting solid 1" in the sled..and 3" offhand,I know I need work.
    If you get a perfect sightin with the sled-it's amazing how far off it is using offhand.
    I like bags or a ruck to shoot off,I do have bipods but meh.
     
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    shootbrownelk Well-Known Member

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    I shoot off a Harris bipod, the same ones I use for hunting.
     
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    sharps4590 Well-Known Member

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    I'd lose the sled. Tried one, didn't care for it. Gimme a good sand bag on a good front rest and a sand butt bag. But criminy, that's what I've been using for over 40 years.
     
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  13. Larry Isaacs

    Larry Isaacs Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    If you are only going to shoot at static targets then the sled/bags are good. If on the hand this is a hunting rifle wouldn't it be wise to shoot in the manner that you would while hunting? I understand working uploads and the repeatability of position is needed. I like to test loads in the same manner that I will be using the weapon.
    Just an opinion.

    Larry
     
  14. tango1niner

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    I've read that using the Lead Sled for heavy recoiling Marlin lever actions puts too much stress on the butt stock and will make it split. So couple the heavy recoil with stock abutments that are not quite perfect and no soft shooter shoulder to cushion the recoil splitting/cracking could happen I suppose...
     
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