So I admit I'm a little scared

Discussion in 'Black Powder Shooting / Muzzleloaders / Handguns' started by The4thhorsemen, Feb 13, 2018 at 9:28 PM.

  1. The_Rifleman

    The_Rifleman Well-Known Member

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    Yes I am.
     
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  2. Hawg

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    That's the first time I ever heard it called that but it does grow on you and yes once fired resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.
     
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  3. LIKTOSHOOT

    LIKTOSHOOT Advanced Senior Member Supporting Member

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    BTW, as some have stated above. Hard to mess up revolvers, they can only take some much powder. I had one of the first Ruger`s "Old Army" the cylinders will only hold so much and you can use compressed loads you`ll find out fast powder fills the cylinder and will not allow you to over charge because you will not be able to load the bullet.

    In my Ruger old army I shot both round balls and conicals. Biggest issue is chain fire and that's easily reduced by a small dab of grease over each chamber which also lubes and keeps powder soft and easy to clean up.
    It has been decades and my memory of those days are limited, BUT! I will tell you in that pistol I used lighter loads and once I worked up to good charge of 4fg and then filled the remaining with cornmeal and then rammed to ball or conical over that.
    This gives you a charge much like cased ammo. FPS stays pretty consistent.
    That being said it allows powder not to lay in the horizontal way so you get rid of the overflash......semi compressed. It allows for more consistent shots.
    Yep PIA but once hooked it become the normal and it also prevents chain fire without adding grease over the top of the charge, so you add one step, but remove another, so I consider that a wash.
    Depending on what yours likes, mine shot best with just over the half powder dump and that leaves a lot of room........so holding the weapon upright for loading.......just top off with cornmeal and ram your ball or conical.
    When I was carrying it for hogs......no cornmeal.....full charge of 4fg and in this I greased each chamber(chainfire)............not sure what you like better, the intoxicating smell or Hoppes...............me-the smokey smell of history.........
     
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  4. sharps4590

    sharps4590 Well-Known Member

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    LIK, either is a pleasant fragrance to the nose. A whiff of Hoppe's and I'm 5 years old again. Make that whiff BP and I'm about 23 which is when I first started shooting it. Boy, getting stuff was sure a lot easier back then.
     
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  5. Kvasir

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    I've shot a LOT of black powder. Flintlock, percussion rifle, "cap and ball" revolver.
    I can talk you through everything you need to know from proper loading, firing, and cleaning, to where to get the necessary supplies.
    But I can't be much help if you don't at least describe the guns you want to shoot.
     
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    I agree. We need pictures...
    First, because it will help us help you identify your guns, and help us help you to know how to feed them.

    Second, because we all love gun porn.:p

    Seriously, those black powder revolvers can be a hoot to shoot, and quite accurate, with good precision. One of our competitions...25 yards.

    Aromatherapy.jpg
     
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  7. sharps4590

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    Black, that's REAL aroma therapy!!!!
     
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  8. Kvasir

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    Just wait until the first chain-fire. That will get your attention.
    :eek:

    Seriously though, even that isn't as scary as it sounds. It only happened to me once in decades of BP shooting, and did no harm to me or the gun.
    Do those pistols look anything like this? IMG00080-20100628-2219.jpg
    Or do they look like this?
    flintlock.jpg
     
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  9. Kvasir

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    The good news is that black powder is VERY forgiving when compared to modern "smokeless" powders. Charges have a massive range in the "safe" zone.
    The flintlock in the picture was the first gun that was truly "my gun".
    I built it from a rough kit (I think it was a CVA) at the age of 12.
    Smooth bore .69 caliber. If a 12 year old can do it without guidance or instruction, so can you.
     
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  10. gwpercle

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    I was in Cabela's yesterday...they carry three black powder substitutes..Blackhorn #209, Pyrodex and Triple Se7en.
    These are used in place of old black powder...they are considered propellants.. Real black powder is an explosive and has more restrictions. They also had lube wads, percussion caps and other supplies.
    Some large Walmarts also caryy the same items.
    Not sure where to get old school black powder any more but I know it's still produced.
    Gary
     
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    From what I have been told, never tried it, it doesnt matter how much black powder you use, only so much will ignite and the rest will get blown across

    once you go black you will never go back!
    Black powder is almost instantaneous, i have found pyrodex and others have a slight delay which I do not like. try each and pick the type you like best.
     
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  12. Hawg

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    The only thing I've ever shot Pyrodex in that had a delay was my 63 Sharps with it's two 80 degree turns in the firing channel. It doesn't have a delay in any of my revolvers or other rifles.
     
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  13. The_Rifleman

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    I have best results with GOEX FFFg black powder in my revolver.
     
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    I think we might have scared the4thhorsemen off. :(
     
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    I think he likes to start threads but quickly loses interest
     
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