SR-9 trigger pull BAD

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  1. 38 special

    38 special New Member

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    I got an SR9. I shot it off bench rest at 15 yards. It shot a 2 inch group out of 6 shots. I noticed the trigger pull is horrible (like so many semi autos). There is the creep then more creep then a third creep then boom. I really
    took my time and the gun shoots pretty good but if triggger pull could be
    improved I think this could be a very accurate pistol.Can the trigger pull be refined easily???
     
  2. ponycar17

    ponycar17 Active Member

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    I don't know how to refine the trigger pull of the SR9 but I'll agree that it's bad. I got the opportunity to mess with one back in the latter part of 2007 and the pull was horrible.
     

  3. todd51

    todd51 Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    I agree the trigger pull is bad, worse than bad. Monday I had the opportunity to shoot my best friends new SR9, accuracy is fine but ooh that trigger pull. I think it needs to go back to Ruger. It is a post recall manufacture so it has the new trigger parts but gees it is bad. After firing about a dozen rounds I could no longer pull the the trigger with the pad of my finger. I shoot a lot and my finger is not week but gees ( I said that didn't I). I had to result to using the index finger of my left hand on top of the trigger finger of my right hand to finish off the magazine. This is not acceptable! It is a new pistol and I would imagine it would be like others and improve with some use but.... Have any of you had experience with the SR9 after firing say 500 to 1000 rounds? Did it improve enough to stop you complaining about it. I believe something is not right with this pistol as can't believe Ruger would market a pistol with this bad a trigger and expect people to purchase it and be happy.
     
  4. Suwannee Tim

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    I have a long and checkered history with Ruger. Without going into the gory details about problems I have had with Ruger guns and problems I have had with Ruger customer service I will repeat something that was told me by a credible person: Most gun buyers, 90%, 95%, maybe even more, do not know enough about firearms to tell an accurate gun from an inaccurate one, a good trigger from a bad trigger, a smooth action from a rough action, nice fit and finish from rough fit and finish. Ruger sells guns into that market. Further, Ruger's customers are distributors, not shooters. Therefore it does not matter that Ruger's guns are mediocre in many respects. Further, when Ruger gets a gun back for repair and they don't fix it properly they only aggravate the gun owner and maybe the gun shop owner, neither of which is their customer. Another thing to remember when reading G&A, TAR, TAH or most other gun magazines, it is not the reader that invites the gun writer on all expenses paid hunting trips and shooting junkets or sends them guns and thousands of rounds of ammo, it is Ruger, et al. This is why you never read about cruddy guns in the gun journals.
     
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  5. Suwannee Tim

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    Sure, the trigger can be refined and some gunsmith will figure out how. So then you can spend $50 to ship the gun each way and pay the gunsmith $100 so you now add $200 to the price of the SR9. And of course this will void Ruger's warranty. Might just as well buy a pistole with a decent trigger right out of the box of which there are plenty.
     
  6. oscarmayer

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    having to admit ruger makes a very reliable and tough to kill handgun, but ruger has a checked past with quality and customer service. they along with smith and wesson count on name reconition and little else. yes i'm still bitter over the selling out of the american gun buying public by ruger and smith & wesson during the clinton years. but the doesn't change the facts. recalls, shoddy workmanship and poor customer service have become the new trade marks of these companies. poor trigger pulls don't surprize me at all . another last minute attempt by ruger to jump on the band wagon of a plastic striker type pistol . long after glock,smith and wesson, and even kahr, you'd think with all those examples ruger would be able to get it right.
     
  7. Tango Victor

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    I recently picked up a SR9 and admittedly the trigger was rough. I disassembled the striker assembly and cleaned and lubed it. When I reassembled the gun I did not re-install the magazine diconnect safety. (It takes about 3 minutes to disassemble.) Now the trigger is very smooth. It is on the heavy side but very manageable. I have in excess of 600 rounds through it without a single malfunction and it is more accurate than I am capable of shooting it. It doesn't have the trigger pull of my HK, SIG or my 1911's but it didn't cost near as much either. There is nothing wrong with a Ruger I have owned them since 1982, great value for the price.
     
  8. oscarmayer

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    would you buy a car you had to tinker with after getting it home from the dealer, why do people accept this non -sense from a gun company. "oh hey dear i picked up the cadillac but damn it runs rough think i'll go to the driveway and try to adjust something." :( keep buy ruger folks you're getting what you deserve.
     
  9. Tango Victor

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    Poor analogy... a gun must be taken apart to clean it anyway. I wouldn't consider disasembly and cleaning tinkering. You do clean you car occasionally don't you? Ruger designed the magazine disconnect to be user removable. I'll spend an extra 3 minutes to save a couple hundred bucks any day. I own several brands of handguns, I'm not a particular fan of any except maybe HK, but the Ruger shoots as good as most and better than some. This kind of thinking is exactly why American companies are suffering. I hear the same things about Fords yet I have owned them since I was old enough to drive and never had a problem with any of them. I don't put a lot of stock in the folks that bash a particular brand, too many agendas out there.
     
  10. Suwannee Tim

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    At one time I was responsible for three Fords, my wife's '88 Escort, my '90 Escort and my mother's '92 Mercury Sable. The Escorts had a defect in the clutch, after about 60K miles the springs would wear through and you could not disengage the clutch. Tear the thing down, pull the old clutch out and look at the friction material, it was barely worn, but the clutch was shot. I did half a dozen clutches on the two cars. I replaced every window regulator, door latches, fuel pumps, radiator fan motors, motor mounts, heater cores, air conditioning components and on and on. I kept Escort parts in stock, a shade-tree mechanic and I kept parts in stock! The Sable made the Escorts look good. It had 67K miles on it when it was totaled. Motor mounts, head gasket, complete air conditioner, PS pump, stearing rack. The motor mounts were an absolute nightmare, took me two weeks to figure out how to get them out. Shortening a bolt by a half inch fixed that problem, I figured out that fix, Ford couldn't. Hydraulic motor mounts, last 50K miles and cost $300 for a set. Hydraulic motor mounts make about as much sense as hydraulic underwear except underwear are a lot cheaper and easier to change. These three cars wore me out. I was literally giddy with joy when I saw the last of the Fords, the '90 Escort with yet another shot clutch, go down the road on the back of a wrecker, sold to the junk man for $50. I was so sick of fixing cars I swore I would never own another Ford. I have two GMs now. Not perfect but far, far from the nightmare of Fords.
     
  11. oscarmayer

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    facts.... if you have to remove parts, hone parts, adjust parts you should of checked deeper into the topic gun ( any of them ) before buying. you can research on line, you can rent the gun at a range to test fire first, you can use snap caps to check the action. agenda or not the facts are this. besides smith and wesson no gun company has had more warning/recalls than ruger if you need to use your gun to save your life and end up in the legal system , it's be found out you altered the guns safety devices ( mag disconnect) then only god or a very high priced lawyer will be able to help you. these are not opinions but facts... it's happened in past self-defence cases and will continue ( read in the gravest extreme) another thread has my posting of the recall/warning notices issued by all the gun companies and smith and wesson is number one with ruger a close second. if ruger or any other company really gave a crap about the gun buying public they would offer a no magazine disconnect as a option i could rant for hours and i know it'll do no good, ruger will still sell sub-standard guns as will smith and wesson because they dont care..... facts again.... proven by the sell out of the gun buying public when backed into a corner by the clinton admin.... and their willingness to go against the wishes and opinions of the same public that has helped them become giants in the industry.
     
  12. lead

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    I bought a new SR9 a couple months ago and I still have mixed feeling about it. The springs on it are the tightest I've ever seen on a new gun. I only had PMC Bronze ammo, which is a lower recoil round. It wouldn't cycle with this ammo at all. I got some Win. White box and the gun would cycle with those. The springs on the mag were just as tough at first.
    The trigger still has a gritty feel to it, in my opinion. It's been a tough one to break in. I've bought other guns that were ready to go right out of the box. This one almost feels like it's unfinished and we have to get it range ready. I know some people say they love them. Personally, I wouldn't buy another.
     
  13. Tango Victor

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    Ok Oscarmayer and Lead, I'm obviously out numbered here. You both have obviously had bad experiences with Ruger and I certainly won't be able to change your mind. My experiences with Ruger go back 27 years and have been very positive, thats all I have to go on.
    Best regards Gentlemen.
     
  14. oscarmayer

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    i dont doubt you've had good experiences with ruger most do. but it don't change the fact they are a sell out company and they are in second place as far as warnings/recalls go ... happy shooting
     
  15. Helix_FR

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    obviously some people here have had good experiences and some have had bad. I have 3 rugers. I shotgun, 1 rifle and 1 pistol. All my experiences with Ruger have been positive except the trigger weight on my M77. But I bought this gun knowing that it has a heavy trigger and I know there is something I can do about it. Its known that Ruger has what we call the 8lb lawyer trigger. Ruger is perfectly capable of making a good light trigger but they don't b/c everyone is so lawsuit happy and Its just as easy to point the finger at the manufacturer as it is at the trigger puller. Since firearms are such a controversial subject in the states ,decisions can be swayed either way at who is at fault. Ruger has decided to play it safe in my eyes but they also have fallen to bandwagoning. Recalls and safety concerns have gotten the best of every company, Ruger and Smith have there hefty fair share of them. Just like ford and GM and yes even Toyota have had theirs. But you also need to look at what they and how much they put out. Ruger and Smith have more models and variations than anyone, so they have much more to cover. I agree however, Ruger and Smith probably need to scale back and put more emphasis on research and development. The past years Ruger and others have just been bandwagoning, seeing what is popular and then developing there own.(don't get me started on that sigma series) Unfortunately they push to get these models out rather than testing, redesigning and testing again etc, etc. CZ spent 8 years on the 75 platform before they even released it. Ruger and Smith went with what they knew/thought would work, built it, tested it, sold it and will have to fix it later. Terrible for reputation but it get the almighty dollar in their pocket sooner. I know this sounds like a sellout to most but its the way business is done in order to compete now. With every firearms sold there is also a big chunk of that profit going to lobbyiest, lawyers and others just trying to protect our rights. Other foreign manufactures don't have to deal with this b/c they are protected b/c they don't have these silly regulations, and lawsuits people have placed before them.
    So calling Ruger and others alike junk, probably not. They do have there good qualities and they do make most happy. Ruger has some of the hardest most durable stainless steel in some of there components I have ever delt with. Can't say so much for some other manufactures that have this "good" reputation using high carbon steel that just screams "replace after 1000 rounds".