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Back in September I had a post about stopping an oncoming car using a 9 mm pistol. Everyone convinced me that the people in the TV show was doing it right - shooting through the windshield at the driver. Doing it like I was thinking - shooting through the grill at the engine - would not work.

Now I got another scenario. Different TV series.

Instead of oncoming car, he's passing. You're standing at the side of the road and he's coming by from your right to your left. You have a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with buckshot. Where would you shoot?

And the TV show he shot the driver's window and the driver. As I watched it I thought he would have done better shooting the front tire. If you take out a tire, it's going to slow him down trying to drive on a flat. And if you take out the front tire it's going to screw up the steering, which might cause him to go off the road entirely.

How would y'all do it? 12 gauge, double aught buck, one shot as he's going by. Going by right to left, so the driver side is facing you as he crosses.
How would I do it? Tell me why first.
 

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Remind me to stay out of Utah.

The bad guy shoots at the cop, and then drives off into heavy traffic. The cops return fire, firing 50 rounds at the car that is in the middle of heavy traffic.

And they only shot one innocent bystander and blew out one window. That's amazing.

And then the other guy does a mag dump with an MP5?

Note to self - do not annoy the Mormons.
 

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Remind me to stay out of Utah.

The bad guy shoots at the cop, and then drives off into heavy traffic. The cops return fire, firing 50 rounds at the car that is in the middle of heavy traffic.

And they only shot one innocent bystander and blew out one window. That's amazing.

And then the other guy does a mag dump with an MP5?

Note to self - do not annoy the Mormons.
I agree. The man that was shot by cops was about 1500 feet away. If you look at how the deputy dog approached the car with a known suspect who had just opened fire at a gas station, he was very lackadaisical as he approached the car and took a couple of seconds to respond to the shots fired from the suspect. He had plenty of backup but they didn't conduct the type of arrest of an armed suspect I have seen other folks conduct. They should have been able to stop him at the first traffic stop by flanking him and conducting the right kind of suspect extraction.

Not sure what you LEO's call that kind of a stop, but I know it when I see it while he was driving. It went through his back window but thankfully didn't hit anyone in the car.

The second one shot at was a man in his pickup truck with 4 kids in it with him.

Yes, the amount of shots in this high traffic corridor of the US west is amazing. I have driven that same road dozens of times between Idaho and Kommiefornia. But that cop shooting the full auto only did so when he pointing his rifle towards traffic, so it is OK.:geek::unsure::whistle::cautious::censored::cry:o_O:geek::alien:👽👹👺🎃😾:mad:
 

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it’s called collateral damage when a cop accidentally shoots in innocent citizen.

Then the worst part is the cops won’t even take responsibility for whoever the moronic low, IQ cop who is doing a spray, and pray acting the big hero of the Day, and sends a stray bullet, hitting a innocent citizen. So the cops will pin that innocent’s injuries or death on the perp they were shooting at.

Plus cops have this protective almost impenetrable shield called Qualified Immunity. As you might know it is basically a “free pass” for cops to do incompetent, or nefarious actions and not be held responsible for them.

I’m not saying all cops are low double digit IQ, but there are some that shouldn’t be allowed to write parking tickets.
 

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But that cop shooting the full auto only did so when he pointing his rifle towards traffic, so it is OK.:geek::unsure::whistle::cautious::censored::cry:o_O:geek::alien:👽👹👺🎃😾:mad:
I think Pete your post has the most diverse and inclusive emojis i've seen used in a post on this forum. ;)
 

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I'm not sure a 9mm will penetrate a front windshield.
I have seen a 9mm penetrate a windshield. 147gr hollow point from about 20 yards. The first round went through the windshield and penetrated the neck skin of the driver, but no further. All subsequent rounds got good penetration. The driver died at the scene.
 
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