Surprising hearing this from CNN

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by LurpyGeek, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. LurpyGeek

    LurpyGeek Active Member

    Nov 30, 2005

    COLORADO SPRINGS, Colorado (CNN) -- A Colorado Springs megachurch instituted security precautions after a shooting at a Denver area mission center earlier Sunday, saving "hundreds of lives" at the New Life Church, senior Pastor Brady Boyd said Monday.

    A New Life parishioner acting as a security guard shot and killed a gunman who entered the church Sunday afternoon after he had gotten no more than 50 feet inside the building, Boyd said.

    Two teens, identified by police as Rachael Works, 16, and Stephanie Works, 18, were killed in what Boyd called "a senseless, random attack."

    Boyd said the teens were sisters and were shot in the parking lot. Police said their father David Works, 51, was also shot and is hospitalized in fair condition with two gunshot wounds.

    Boyd said the female security guard was a hero in preventing further bloodshed, rushing to confront the gunman just inside the church.

    "She probably saved over a hundred lives," Boyd said of the guard, whom he said is not a law enforcement officer and used her personal weapon. Video Watch pastor tell how guard saved lives »

    Boyd said the gunman, whom police have yet to identify, had no connection to the church.

    "He simply showed up on our property yesterday with a gun, with the intention of hurting people, and he did," Boyd said.

    The pastor also said New Life had taken extra precautions Sunday after hearing of the attack in Arvada, Colorado, early Sunday morning, in which a gunman killed two people after he was refused lodging at Youth With a Mission live-in Christian missionary center.

    "Hundreds of lives were saved yesterday because of the plan that was put in place," said Boyd, who put the number of people on the church campus at the time as 7,000.

    Authorities say the Arvada and Colorado Springs shootings may be related, and overnight police from Arvada executed a search warrant obtained by Colorado Springs police for an address in the Denver suburb of Englewood. Authorities did not say how the address may relate to the case.

    Lt. Skip Arms of the Colorado Springs Police Department said that no motive has been determined for the gunman at the second shooting. The gunman's identity has not been released.

    Police in the two cities say different weapons were used in the shootings -- a handgun in Arvada and a rifle in Colorado Springs. Video Watch police, heartbroken pastor react to attacks »

    The first incident took place Sunday at about 12:30 a.m. at Youth With a Mission in Arvada. Police said a man with a beard, wearing a dark jacket, glasses, and skullcap, entered the facility, got into a dispute with a staff member about whether he could stay there for the night, and then opened fire.

    Investigators tried to track the gunman through fresh snow with the help of dogs, but lost his trail in a heavily walked area, Deputy Chief Gary Creager of Arvada police said.

    Then shortly after 1 p.m. in Colorado Springs -- about 80 miles south of Arvada -- a black-clad gunman opened fire on worshippers at New Life. Video Watch man describe shooting inside church »

    Youth With a Mission co-founder Peter Warren identified the two killed staff members as Tiffany Johnson, 26, and Philip Crouse, 24. He said they were cleaning up from a Saturday night Christmas banquet when the attack occurred.

    Another staff member, 24-year-old Dan Griebenow, was in critical condition with a bullet in his neck as of Sunday night, and a second survivor, Charlie Blanch, was shot in the legs, the group said on its Web site.
  2. Marlin T

    Marlin T Well-Known Member

    Jul 8, 2005
    New Mexico
    One of the reporters asked if they could have the name of the ‘security guard’, the answer was short, straight and to the point. “NO” This leads me to believe that the ‘security guard’ wasn’t a security guard, rather a civilian and a member of the church with a CCW permit.

    I’m not surprised to see that the real hero got very little coverage.

  3. catfish83861

    catfish83861 Active Member

    Nov 15, 2006
    North Idaho
    This morning on Fox they said the lady did in fact use her own weapon and was not in law enforcement at this time. Maybe some PD or Sheriffs department should hire her. She does better than the normal cops do in a shooting. She was evidently stationed in the center of the building when the shots started. All I can say is they need to get her some more ammo!;):D
  4. berto64

    berto64 Active Member

    Jan 31, 2001
    Owyhee County, Idaho
  5. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Guest

    From the story above. However, she will NEVER be called a palin ol' citizen by the media. She will always be THE Security Guard (With those caps.)

  6. SouthernMoss

    SouthernMoss *Admin Tech Staff*

    Jan 1, 2003
    SW MS
    You know, a church used to be considered sanctuary and even "bad guys" would honor that tradition. Not any more :(:(:(:(:(
  7. Marlin

    Marlin *TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor*

    Mar 27, 2003
    At SouthernMoss' side forever!
    That's specifically why Charl Van Wyk wrote his book, "Shooting Back."

    This book is a must in everyone's library that supports the 2nd Amendment.
  8. Bruce FLinch

    Bruce FLinch New Member

    Aug 27, 2005
    Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point
    Gutsy Gal! I heard her acct on the radio. Impressive. She was a volunteer guard, member of the congregation & CCW holder.
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