Here is a short summary of the early history of thefirearmsforum.com (TFF). The year was 2,000 On another firearms related website we use to call Brand X, the chat forum was filled with backstabbing, flaming, bashing, swearing, etc. The spineless moderator there had no control over what was going on in the buy, sale, trade forum, or what was being said by the members in the chat room. It was total chaos. Tac401 (founder of TFF) shooter45 and a few others had the misfortune of dealing with a bad apple who stole from them (transaction gone bad) when they brought this to the attention of the moderator, he then tried to save face and his job by labeling them "Miscreants" and banded them from Brand X. That moderator had just alienated a whole bunch of "good" members and was left holding the trash bag. The Miscreants needed to find or create new website for chat. tac401 (RIP) got thefirearmsforum.com up and running in no time, with his own set of strict rules that is more conductive to good behavior and politeness. NO swearing, bashing, backstabbing, etc.. After that, the moderator at brand X would delete any post that had the word "firearms" In it, apparently thinking the word "Firearms" (code word) would lead what was left of his members over to TFF. This became very frustrating , after all what's up with a gun site where you can't type the topic title. I posted many ingenious threads just to see them go poof within seconds. A few days later, i got an e-mail from 280freak in ND, telling me about the new site the Miscreants had created (TFF) and everything that was happening over at Brand X, before I left that chat room, I messed with the mod there by spelling "firearms" wrong , (HUH) sweet revenge...his binary code was broken by a couple of "dirt farmers". I registered at TFF as member # 19 and ever since avoided that chat room like the plague. In 2002 Tac401 needed to switch over from Easy board. I volunteered as a few others did to Copy / Paste every post to a new server. It took many hours of late night work. The whole winter of 02 was spent pasting post's, A job I didn't mind doing, because I was very bitter and wanted a better place where we could just all get along and my post's would not be deleted, less I swear or belittle other members. Since then Brand X (*************) has new ownership, and I give them the "benefit of the doubt" But I'm so deeply scared I will never enter that chat room "EVER" In a nutshell, TFF was started by a thief and a mod who wouldn't do anything about it. The moderators here at TFF do a great job of controlling any situation that occurs, my hats off to them. So kick back and enjoy this family oriented PG site where you can ask almost anything and someone will be along to give you a professional answer. Wiseacres. President: TFF witness protection program, and forum historian.