The god that failed part 2

Discussion in 'The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorr' started by cycloneman, Jul 30, 2010.

  1. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    Our country is made up of states. Actually the word state has lost its meaning to Americans. This is a representation of our schools failing our children. A state is a country in its own. Our states have come together to form a union of states. Hence the United States of America. The federal government get’s its power form the union of states. Without the states there would be no federal government. One of the duties the union of states has charged the federal govt with is protecting our boarders from invasion.

    Fact: the federal govt is failing to protect our borders. Just look at the news. Recently one of our dear states Arizona decided to take action since the federal government is not doing their job. If you were a boss and your worker did not do what you told him wouldn’t you fire him? So Az decided to pass a law at the state level to authorize police to handle illegals. Enter the god that failed. Not only is the federal govt refusing to do its job but it is attempting to stop Az from taking care of the problem itself. The federal govt has filed a suit in a local federal court and a hair brained judge ruled in favor of the federal govt. You would have to be some type of god to think that you could tell the state of Az what they can do or not do. Since the Fed Govt gets its power from the very state it wishes to control. It’s like you telling your employee to do something and he not listening to you and then he takes you to court to stop you from getting the job done. Yep only some type of god would attempt that.

    I got this in an email this morning . Enjoy

    ONLY the US Supreme Court has Constitutional Authority to Conduct the Trial (ARIZONA, THAT IS)

    Does anyone read the U.S. Constitution these days? American lawyers don’t read it. Federal Judge Susan R. Bolton apparently has never read it. Same goes for our illustrious Attorney General Eric Holder. But this lawyer has read it and she is going to show you something in Our Constitution which is as plain as the nose on your face.

    Article III, Sec. 2, clause 2 says:
    In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction…

    “Original” jurisdiction means the power to conduct the “trial” of the case (as opposed to hearing an appeal from the judgment of a lower court). You all know quite well what a “trial” is - you see them all the time on TV shows: Perry Mason, Boston Legal, The Good Wife, etc. Witnesses testify and are cross-examined, etc.
    The style of the Arizona case shows quite clearly that the named defendants are:
    State of Arizona; and Janice K. Brewer,
    Governor of the State of Arizona, in her
    Official Capacity, Defendants.

    Judge Susan R. Bolton has no more authority to preside over this case than do you

    See where it says, “State of Arizona”? And “Janice K. Brewer, Governor of the State of Arizona, in her official Capacity”? THAT (plus Art. III, Sec. 2, clause 2) is what gives the US Supreme Court “original Jurisdiction”, i.e., jurisdiction to conduct the trial of this case. THAT is what strips the federal district court of any jurisdiction whatsoever to hear this case. Judge Susan R. Bolton has no more authority to preside over this case than do you (unless you are a US Supreme Court justice).
    In Federalist No. 81 (13th para), Alexander Hamilton commented on this exact provision of Art. III, Sec. 2, clause 2:
    ...Let us now examine in what manner the judicial authority is to be distributed between the supreme and the inferior courts of the Union. The Supreme Court is to be invested with original jurisdiction, only “in cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers, and consuls, and those in which A STATE shall be a party.” Public ministers of every class are the immediate representatives of their sovereigns. All questions in which they are concerned are so directly connected with the public peace, that, as well for the preservation of this, as out of respect to the sovereignties they represent, it is both expedient and proper that such questions should be submitted in the first instance to the highest judicatory of the nation. Though consuls have not in strictness a diplomatic character, yet as they are the public agents of the nations to which they belong, the same observation is in a great measure applicable to them. In cases in which a State might happen to be a party, it would ill suit its dignity to be turned over to an inferior tribunal….[boldface added, caps in original]

    Yet Attorney General Eric Holder filed the case in a court which is specifically stripped of jurisdiction to hear it!
    So! Counsel for the State of Arizona should consider:
    1. File a Petition for Removal before federal district court Judge Susan R. Bolton demanding that the case be removed to the Supreme Court on the ground that under Art. III, Sec. 2, clause 2, US Constitution, only the Supreme Court has jurisdiction to conduct the trial of this case.
    2. If Judge Bolton denies the Petition for Removal, file a Petition for Writ of Mandamus in the Supreme Court asking that court to order Judge Bolton to transfer the case to the Supreme Court.
    A Petition for Writ of Mandamus is an old common-law “extraordinary writ”: It asks a court to ORDER a lower court or other public official to something which it is its duty to do. In Kerr v. US District Court for Northern District of California (1976), the Supreme Court said, respecting the propriety of issuing writs of mandamus:
    ....the fact still remains that “only exceptional circumstances amounting to a judicial ‘usurpation of power’ will justify the invocation of this extraordinary remedy.”...(para 13)

    When a federal district court judge presides over a case which the Constitution specifically prohibits her from hearing, and even issues a ruling enjoining the enforcement of a State Law, then that federal district court judge usurps power. She is specifically stripped - by Art. III, Sec. 2, clause 2 - of jurisdiction to preside over the case against the STATE of Arizona and against THE GOVERNOR of the STATE of Arizona.
    For procedures for filing the Petition for Writ of Mandamus, see Supreme Court Rule 20.
    Article IV, Sec. 4, requires the federal government to protect each of the States against invasion.Not only is the Obama regime refusing to perform this specific Constitutional duty - it seeks to prohibit the Sovereign STATE of Arizona from defending itself! This lawlessness on the part of the Obama regime is unmatched in the history of Our Country.
    OK, counselors - Go for it!
  2. topper

    topper New Member

    Aug 2, 2006
    deep in the woods
    Most states are held at bay by a thing called 'Federal Money". Badly needed money for schools, roads, hospitals and other civil works. No one wants to stand up to Uncle Sam and risk losing that precious money that is given just as soon as the states rollover and play the feds game.

  3. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    Your right! But that money comes from the citizens of the states. The federal govt doesn't make the money. Oppps they do print a heck of alot of it. Why do they have the authority to print money? Hmmmmm
  4. wpage

    wpage Active Member

    Aug 25, 2009
    Its all about the moola. They print it. They dole it out. Its all about the god that failed and capital is that god. The money. They worship at its false throne.
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