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Greetings. This is my first post here so bear with me. I'm a noob...
So i was bequeathed this pistol which was once upon a time used by my grandfather for deer hunting after a stroke seized the right half of his body. I've tried searching it out, but came up short due to the barrel size not really matching any of the options I've found available. The pistol is the colt "rip off" by Armi Jager. As you can see from the pictures it's a .357 Dakota, but as i stated, the barrel length doesn't fit.. (I'm under the impression there were only 4 options. A 4 inch, a 5 inch, a 7 inch, and a 16 inch option that came with a detachable stock. Im kinda gobsmacked by this, as even the local gunsmith had never seen this variant and his resources don't help are all either.. would this be custom work? Am i mistaken in how many options this Italian company offered? Any knowledge would be appreciated, as im drawing a blank...
 

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The standard barrel lengths for Colt copies are/were 4 3/4", 5 1/2" and 7 1/2", not 4, 5, and 7.

That one is a Buntline. 12 1/2". That particular one was made in 1976. Now, whether they made a special run of Buntlines for the bicentennial, or whether that's just a coincidence, I don't know.

Here's one that sold at auction for a massive $266.

https://mobile.gunauction.com/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7716672
 

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Hmm. There is a considerable difference in length from the pictures listed in your link. The front sight is different too. Not saying your wrong, but i cannot find an identical gun anywhere in the ethers....
 

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A hap hazard guess since the front sight is not to factory spec as you observed is it was a 16" cut down at some point in its life. It`s a shooter grade with value to show.
Shoot it and enjoy its family history.
Very Nice!
 

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There isn't much point to shortening a 16" barrel to 11-1/2".
Because you can't find the gun in a catalog doesn't mean it was not manufactured that way. You have not included close up photos of the muzzle and front sight-which could help identify the work done.
If a good gunsmith shortened the barrel, it would be indistinguishable from factory work.
My guess is the gun was made exactly as it is now.
Regardless, even if it is a rare factory variation, it's just a nice Colt copy-and has no real collector value.
 

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Lolol. Damn. You guys are begging for more gun porn . Ill take some macro photos for you. If it was shortened at one time, it's done very well as i have never noticed anything indicating that. The true value in this is having a piece of grandpa with me. Knowing what it's worth for a divorce inventory is handy too. .. ........ lol
 

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Well.. gramps wasnt a rich man. In fact i remember stories of him being rather fruegal. Lol. Is there a database or book that i could use the serial number to trace back it's origins? I know.. it's a knockoff, but i prefer this to a site like 23 and me.
 

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Dakotas, early 70's catalog for Inter Continental Arms. No mention of your odd barrel length--but otherwise similar. Interesting that this ad says "made in Europe". They were indeed made for a time (concurrent with Italian manufacture) in Switzerland.


 

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Interesting bit of trivia that might help date your gun-------

Dakotas from 1962 – 1968 have no safety mechanism. Revolvers from 1969 – 71 or thereabouts generally have a hammer wheel safety. Revolvers after that have a base pin safety. On Jagers, this is an odd "twist" base pin rather than the “Swiss” two notch pin that became common on Italian SAA replicas.
 

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Interesting bit of trivia that might help date your gun-------
Dating that gun is not a problem. The second picture clearly shows the date code. All Italian guns use the same date codes, and all Italian guns are dated. That one's AB - 1976.
 
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