The Lies of our Leaders....

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by Shizamus, Jun 17, 2003.

  1. Shizamus

    Shizamus New Member

    Jun 27, 2001
    This is an E-mail I received.

    Americans no longer believe that to tell the truth is important.

    President Bush and virtually the entire American power structure lied to
    the whole world when they said Iraq possessed weapons of mass
    destruction that were an imminent threat to the safety of the so-called
    free world.
    Now beyond any doubt, these assertions have
    since been exposed as falsehoods. Still, few Americans really give a
    damn, and business goes on, in the foreshadow of a massive worldwide
    economic collapse, as usual.
    President Bush and virtually the entire American
    power structure lied when they said we needed to invade Afghanistan to
    bring to justice the alleged perpetrators of the 9/11 horror. Shortly
    after the invasion began, Gen. Tommy Franks announced it wasn't
    important to capture the so-called ringleader, Osama bin Laden, even as
    the Afghanis' Taliban government offered to furnish him for trial in a
    neutral country. The real objective, Franks said during the attack, was
    to subdue the whole country.
    With the fictional al-Qaeda network still being
    used as a pretext for permanent war against the entire world by the
    United States and bin Laden still uncaptured, it has become obvious to
    everyone that the reason for obliterating Afghanistan with nuclear
    weapons and murdering tens of thousands of innocent people was something
    other than capturing a suspected terrorist, although none of us are
    quite sure what that reason was. Talk of Enron, oil pipelines and
    geopolitical strategies are generally censored from the television news.
    The situation is identical is Iraq. What was the
    purpose of blasting several thousand innocents into heaven when the
    situation it produced is actually more of a threat to our security than
    was the continued dictatorship of Saddam Hussein? None of us are quite
    sure what that reason was, although we all have our favorite suspicions:
    oil, Israel, expenditure of military stockpiles and creation of
    lucrative contracts for corporate supporters of the war machine to
    revive a disintegrating American economy.
    Those two lies - justifying depraved mass
    murder in two defenseless countries - now stand as the ranking horrors
    in American history. In the 227 years of our history, from the smallpox
    blankets of Colonial days to Waco, America has done nothing worse
    (although many military adventures, notably the Philippines in 1899 and
    Vietnam in the the 1960s, were almost as bad and unjustifiable).
    But the real question as America sinks into the
    suffocating hell of a totalitarian dictatorship is this.
    If our leaders have been proved to be liars
    about the sick and sinful destruction of humanity in Afghanistan and
    Iraq, why do a majority of Americans still accept what these same lying
    leaders said about the 9/11 atrocity, that it was the work of foreign
    terrorists who envied our freedom! As Gerard Holmgren once so aptly
    said, this is the most ridiculous of all conspiracy theories to believe.
    To a special few, responsibility for the 9/11
    butchery has always been obvious. Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote about the
    need for it in a book, and the Republican-dominated Project for a New
    American Century recommended it as a desirable event for achieving its
    But most simpleton Americans are afraid to even
    contemplate such a frightening possibility. They would prefer to believe
    the lie, without really realizing what will happen to them if they do.
    In the history of the world, there has never
    been a bigger lie than 9/11, yet most Americans still cling in
    closed-minded terror to the official story, swallow their pride at
    airports as minimum-wage fascists probe their private parts, stick flag
    decals on their cars in hopes they won't be pulled over and jailed for
    something they don't expect by Ashcroft's new stormtroopers, and watch
    in numbed banality as the official government investigation begins by
    saying they already know who did it, so there's no sense investigating
    Americans have swallowed the lie whole-hog that
    we need to beef up security because there are terrorists in our midst,
    when the obvious fact is that the terrorists reside in Washington, and
    are terrorizing the whole world, with the eager help of your neighbors,
    the corrupt local police and corrupt local judges, who accept what their
    superiors order them to do just as the guards at Auschwitz did.
    Let that one roll through your mind: American
    cops are now just the guards at Auschwitz, participating in the
    elimination of all those who won't participate in the American master
    plan of enslaving the world. Can you say death chamber at Guantanamo
    with no real trial?
    How can this possibly be happening? How can
    Americans have gone brain-dead all at once? It didn't happen overnight,
    I can tell you. From the Kennedy assassination onward, Americans have
    been conditioned to accept phony excuses for political crimes as
    protests and questions are all blunted in a mind-numbing miasma of
    bureaucratic mazes. So everyone gave up trying to ask questions, and
    rationalized their indifference as not critical to my survival. Time to
    guess again.
    Even more disturbing than the murderous plans of
    Bush and his petronazi gang of Zionist manipulators is the silent
    acquiescence of the so-called opposition. These "liberal" Democrats
    CREATED the Patriot Act, which castrates our Constitution. These gutless
    bureaucrats, ever mindful of the need to attract corporate campaign
    contributions, went along with Bush's invasions for fear of losing the
    votes of mindless, flag-waving fascist Americans.
    Consider the Democratic opposition for a moment:
    Hillary Clinton, Kerry, Lieberman, Gephardt, Edwards, Dean,
    Mosely-Braun, Sharpton - all but one of the Democratic candidates
    BACKED the military moves of Bush. And all of them - no exceptions -
    endorse the lies we have been told about 9/11, as well as the fiction
    that Israel is a benevolent democracy.
    I get a big laugh out of all these calls for
    petitions on various issues. Ha. And the same goes double for all this
    talk about the next election. Ha ha. The elections of 2000 proved
    Americans no longer have elections. It doesn't matter who you vote for.
    Who they want to win will win, and they have both the technological
    expertise and the cash on hand to make it happen. Just ask any Supreme
    Court justice.
    Take your presidential candidate and stuff him.
    The American system of democracy is dead. The presidential campaign is a
    sideshow to delude the American populace into thinking they still have
    choice about what happens.
    Bulletin: they don't.
    No one in Congress is telling the truth (OK, you
    might find one or two who are telling the truth about SOME things, one
    less without Paul Wellstone, who was clearly murdered).
    No candidate for any office anywhere in the
    United States is saying that 9/11 was a hoax, a cynical gambit to scare
    the American people into accepting police state measures. That's why no
    candidate now running for any office is telling the truth.
    No one who thinks of running public office can
    seriously entertain the notion they can fix anything. Because to fix
    anything, you have to dig into the big problems that keep the war
    machine afloat, principally the pervasive influence of Judaism and
    Zionism, which have fatally infected most of the societies in the world
    with their manipulative brand of behavioral bullshit, and undermined
    morality everywhere. When morality is relative, evil prevails, because
    temptation and corruption are the human conditions.
    No one running for public office will begin to
    address the obvious issue that 9/11 was aimed at defaming Muslims,
    thereby legitimizing two horrible American crimes: the Israeli genocide
    of the Palestinians, and the conquest of all the oil resources in the
    And when the religions themselves have grown
    corrupt by their own power over people, there is no hope, anarchy
    follows and chaos triumphs. There is no hope. That is the situation we
    now face.
    Eventually, after thousands of photos of
    bloodied bodies, after all the uteruses of our soldiers' wives are
    bleeding from the effects of radioactive ammunition, after you realize
    that one day you are out of money and there's nowhere to get more
    because the fat cats have stolen it all and surrounded themselves with
    Wackenhut wackos, you'll come to the realization about blame.
    There's no real sense blaming Jews or Catholics,
    or oil executives or money launderers. We've done all this to ourselves,
    simply by not paying attention to what's actually happening.
    It isn't Bush or Daschle who are the real
    scumbags, the real killers of innocent people in the pursuit of profit.
    It's nobody us but us, we the intelligent citizens of the world who
    failed to pay attention, or took a bribe, or looked the other way when
    we saw somebody doing something wrong because it was easier that way.
    It is we who kept our mouths shut during all
    those scams, Vietnam, the savings and loan robbery, Waco, 9/11. We were
    too afraid to ask real questions, and thought we could get by waving our
    flags and going along with the crowd. But each new government atrocity
    got worse, right up through 9/11.
    And, sadly, the worst has yet to come.
    It's too late now. Nothing can be done. They
    can't be stopped. We waited too long. We waited until they had amassed
    their armies, their biological identification devices, their roadblocks,
    their internment camps for protesters, the death penalty in Oregon for
    protesting, their genetically modified food supply (guaranteeing
    billions of needless deaths), their aluminumization of our atmosphere,
    their privatization of our water, their shaping of our very brains
    through Zionist educational philosophies and Zionist entertainment
    programming until our minds were so zapped out on misleading
    trivialities that we couldn't even ask the most basic question of all
    Which is this.
    Why couldn't we see this would happen because we
    didn't pay attention to all those other horrors?
    Why didn't we know you can't turn your back on
    the world, and expect the world to still be there when you turn back
    There is no forgiveness, and no way to put
    things right without a massive bloodbath now. Which is just what they
    wanted, just what they practice. They've won. And we've lost.
    But don't blame it on the lies of our leaders.
    Blame it on the lies we told - and are still telling - ourselves.
    John Kaminski is a writer who currently lives in
    poverty on the coast of Florida, who usually talks every Friday night on
    a webcast at, and whose collection of essays titled
    "America's Autopsy Report" is scheduled for publication sometime in the
    future by Dandelion Books. Please don't be alarmed if these messages I
    now send suddenly stop. Financial reality is such that I must soon
    discontinue this operation. It's been a pleasure chatting with so many
    of you noble souls. But don't worry about me. Your time is coming, too,
    and sooner than you think.
  2. LewairLavell

    LewairLavell New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Houston, TX
    I didn't read all that, so pardon the remark, but just from the first paragraph I'll say this:

    The only thing I've ever found 'truth' in is scientific investigation and inquiry. Factual 'truth' on events and time fall into that category.

    Everything else falls under a definition of 'truth' falls under a broader category of the belief system, morals, and ethics a person has that will dictate 'truth'. So on that note, the statement that 'Truth is in the eye of the beholder' is really a correct statement.

    In the ever present culture of individualism in America, it's no surprise to me that the concept of 'truth' in events and actions is completely unimportant. The more people want to get away from societal beliefs and societal morals and ethics, the more we're going to get away from there being a common 'truth' basis on which people relate.

    Not surprising really.

  3. wuzzagrunt

    wuzzagrunt New Member

    Apr 20, 2003
    Truth may be in the eye of the beholder but I know one thing to be true: the writer of that email is an idiot or is deranged (or both). Any single thing he said could be a fact. It is impossible for everything he said to be true. The entire rant is so full of contradictions and distortion or outright falshoods that nobody who is not full of hate (when they should be full of thorazine) could have written it.
  4. Smokin Guns

    Smokin Guns New Member

    Jul 25, 2002
    "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"...
    ...I is kind'a simple...but, afraid...i'm a'thinkin not!...I think Iran is a good next place!...ta visit...[​IMG]...Ya sure, You bet!...
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2003
  5. 1952Sniper

    1952Sniper New Member

    Aug 22, 2002
    Beyond any doubt? This guy must have some facts that the rest of us don't have. I agree that the whole WMD claim in Iraq is questionable, but it's far from being "beyond any doubt".

    Obliterating them with nuclear weapons? Is this guy on crack?

    America has never been a democracy. It is a representative republic. This guy needs to do some homework.

    I could pick apart that whole argument but I really don't feel like it at the moment. I agree with some of the basic principles that he talk about, like questioning our government's motives and propaganda. I even have my own doubts as to the real story of 9/11. But this guy is so full of hate, that it's hard to take anything he says realistically. His ramblings about the "Zionists" sure sound an awful lot like a little man we're all familiar with who wore a funny mustache and led Germany into WWII with the same types of arguments.
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