Thought I'd drop this ol' bone off here...

Discussion in 'Knives & Edged Items' started by Crpdeth, Nov 28, 2017.

  1. Crpdeth

    Crpdeth Well-Known Member

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    This knife has been in my possession for about ten years and for sentimental reasons it will only leave that place, to go to the original owners son, who knows nothing about it, if he ever settles down in life to the point that I believe he'll treasure it instead of throwing it away.

    It's well used and I like that, the man was said to have carried it in his boot every day, which to me... Well, I've tried to carry knives in my boot without a clip and I just don't see that as being possible with this setup.

    Anyway, I've done a fair share of research on it and I think it has stag handles. I've seen it called everything from an Alfred Williams cutlery knife, to fighting, hunting, Bowie, Cowboy, Military... It has Manhattan Cutlery Company Sheffield stamped on the tang. I've seen them list for everywhere between 100.00 up to 600.00.

    Thought you guys might like to see it...

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  2. Bill DeShivs

    Bill DeShivs Well-Known Member

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    It's a post 1900 "Bowie hunter" pattern. Handles are stag.
    Has nothing to do with military or fighting. Just a hunting knife vaguely shaped like a Bowie knife.
     
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  3. Old Guns

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    These knives are actually quite common. They are usually made in England by many manufactures. Blade length has a lot to do with the price. If I remember correctly 5 inch is the most often seen and then six. Anything over 6 inches is worth a bit more. Of course like anything else condition is everything. Many show use like yours. Many of them had acid etched panels on the side.
     
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    There was the movie THE IRON MISTRESS way back in the early 50's.....I have
    never forgotten the story though the movie won no accolades or awards...The
    story was molding a star fragment into the steel to make the blade...Chief



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  5. Crpdeth

    Crpdeth Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys, it's nice to separate facts from bs and I know that Bill knows his stuff, as do others here... Not being a huge knife guy myself (I love them, but I don't have a lot of knowledge about them) it'll be nice to tell the young man a few facts about it when I hand it over.
     
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  6. The_Doctor

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    Very cool knife, Crpdeth! Made me dig out my late Father's handy scabbard knife and

    clean it up a little. I think they both may have a common background, as I "believe"

    Dad brought this back from Europe in WWll. (RIP, Dad)

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  7. Crpdeth

    Crpdeth Well-Known Member

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    Doc

    Thanks for digging that out, man... I need to clean mine up as well, I wouldn't be surprised if it's never been oiled.

    Oh, and welcome to the forum.
     
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  8. The_Doctor

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    Thanks, Crpdeth. Yeah, Dad's old knife was left in a toolbox for far too long and

    forgotten. When I came across it, the sheath was suffering from white mold, and took

    a bit of time to bring back. I just wiped down and lightly oiled the blade.

    Thanks to @Old Guns for explaining where these treasures came from!



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  9. Old Guns

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    I would advise against cleaning it. Cleaning an old knife is a sin in the collecting world. Your knife has a nice brown patina and shows use as you can easily see the blade has been sharpened more then once. I have cleaned up a lot of old leather with the white mold or mildew. I use Windex. It will clean away all the dirt and mold. It leaves the leather a bit dull at first as it will be wet for a short time but once it dries which does not take long you can buff it back to it's original state with a soft cloth.
     
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  10. Crpdeth

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    Hmmm, well, I did hit the stag and the blade with a little CLP, but I'd never go scrubbing on it. I wondered about the mold and how to go after it, but I didn't want to take away from it's natural look either, so thanks for the Windex tip, I may try that.

    From the looks of things it'll be many more years before I pass it down, I've even given my wife instruction for where it should go if I pass.

    Thanks guys, I'm enjoying the conversation.